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broken picks

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

broken picks

Postby n00bking » 19 Apr 2007 19:07

hey, I have broken my jag pick and my single sided pick. :(

I can see the jag pick, there is a small area where it connects.

But the single sided pick? I mean, I used it a lot, but it doesn't seem like it would break a lot. O well, I will order 2 now, and 2 Jag Rake Picks, and 1 more Snake rake, but are there any more that break easily? And should I get another snake rake for backup? Do they break easily?

Are there picks out there that don't break that easily?

Thanks.
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Postby JackNco » 19 Apr 2007 19:13

jag pick?

What brand are u using. im yet to break one....
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Postby n00bking » 19 Apr 2007 19:17

lockpicks.com

it is the one that looks like an M
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Postby Eyes_Only » 19 Apr 2007 19:18

Under normal conditions picks should not break, ever. The only reason they break is because the user was applying too much pressure on the tension wrench requiring more force needed to be put on the pick to lift the pin stacks. I've broken a pick myself in the past and that was a great learning experience for me about proper tension to apply to the plug. No pick is so strong that it can withstand such abuse. The only thing you can do is go easy on the tension, otherwise you'll be collecting a lot of scrap metal from now on.
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Postby Wrenchman » 19 Apr 2007 20:05

Eyes_Only wrote:Under normal conditions picks should not break, ever. The only reason they break is because the user was applying too much pressure on the tension wrench requiring more force needed to be put on the pick to lift the pin stacks. I've broken a pick myself in the past and that was a great learning experience for me about proper tension to apply to the plug. No pick is so strong that it can withstand such abuse. The only thing you can do is go easy on the tension, otherwise you'll be collecting a lot of scrap metal from now on.


What he said!

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Postby freakparade3 » 19 Apr 2007 20:10

As said ease up. Your trying to hard. Just pretend your lock is a woman, stroke it softly. Wait, mabye I'm sharing to much here....... :lol:
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Postby Charodei » 19 Apr 2007 21:15

What exactly is a "single sided pick"? I know several that could be called that: hook, half diamond, half ball, some rakes.

freakparade3: I wouldn't mind if you went into more detail... ;)
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Postby Wolfe » 19 Apr 2007 21:42

did you quench them in old used motor oil? i heard this works great
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Postby CompFX » 19 Apr 2007 21:50

I would not suggest messing with the temper of commercial picks.

I have broke a pick also. I was picking a dirty, corroded lock and didnt want to take the time to clean it, or lube it up. Lesson learned!! (it was my fav pick too :( )

Make sure you clean and / or lube old dirty locks

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Postby Shrub » 20 Apr 2007 5:32

Wolfe wrote:did you quench them in old used motor oil? i heard this works great


Roflmao,
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Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Apr 2007 9:25

Quenching pick tools in oil will, from what I understand, give the metal a more flexible property and help prevent it from breaking too easily but as CompFX said, don't quench any commercial picks you bought. They already have been through some sort of tempering process so any further tempering/tampering will just screw up the metal.
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Postby raimundo » 20 Apr 2007 9:26

certain designs of picks will be prone to breaking, the pick shaft should be either two parallel edges or haveing a slight taper toward the tip, the pick tip also needs to be well designed, so that it also continues the taper. If you have a rake that is not undercut, you will find that certain parts of the pick tip, are much narrower than parts further to the pick end, this leave a part of the pick stronger and the stress that would flexbend a longer thinner design will cause one tiny part of the pick to attempt to do all the flex and bend, at the same place with little flexible material to do the job. also, any sharp angle to the tip may cause a stress buildup point, examine al your broken picks and notice that they always break at the thinnest point.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Apr 2007 11:43

Yeah, my hook pick broke a few millimeters from the tip, right where it meets the rest of the shaft.
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Postby n00bking » 20 Apr 2007 15:58

ya, the jag rake pick, i broke on the first day that I got it, and it broken clean off. It was my first day so I am not surprised. But my single sided pick, I was picking my back door lock for like the first time, and ya I was kinda screwing up the tension because I had never done the lock before, other than that I was just picking padlocks that were easy.

I'll just get another single sided pick and a jar rake pick, and a single short sided pick, looks kinda cool.
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Postby Jolly Rodgers » 20 Apr 2007 19:11

:sigh: dont pick locks you rely on :sigh:

trust me when you break a pick off in your dodge dakota door youll regret it(personal experience)
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