schlage deadbolts

[muskratt]

all of my raking attempts against one of these have failed. Ive tried spp, snap guns vibrating pick guns and bump keys. Ive opened it once by just luck( wasn't even looking at it, I was talking). I was wondering what strategies do you guys use to open these locks.

[Eyes_Only]

Schlages can be a little trickier than a Kwikset, Weiser, Dexter etc. When I started picking I thought this lock was going to be the death of me because the tolerances were so much better than most other residential locks. One thing that helped me was to place the tension wrench at the top of the key way rather than the bottom. This will help free up some space to allow you more room to move your pick around freely.

[Rodfather23]

I just pick it back wards.....give you plenty of room to put a wrench in. I have a special wrench I made for my schlage. Its a double ended one with on end about 1/2 long and then with the width thinned out. Then on the other end, it has a very small bend of about an 1/8 of an inch. (for the top of the plug)[/code]

[Gordon Airporte]

When you first pick up the lock, I find that it helps to hold your pick loosely and scrub it in and out of the lock with the tip of the pick just touching the pins. You don't need to apply tension. What this does is let you find the plane the pick needs to be held in to work in this keyway.
You should also try the standard exercise of starting with only a few pins then working your way up to all of them.

[freakparade3]

All Schlage locks I have picked require very light tension.

[picky andy]

I have a Schlage maximum security deadbolt , does anyone have diagram of the internal workings of this baby. Or does anyone have a special technique for picking/ raking
..........thanking you in advance. Picky Andy

[GutterClown]

Ive opened it once by just luck( wasn't even looking at it, I was talking).

I've often found that can be the best thing sometimes. stop concentrating so hard on what you're doing, and just let your hands to the picking, and think about something else.

Often work it will, yoda says.

[Eyes_Only]

Schlage also tends to use two or three spool drivers to impede picking attempts so thats another thing to watch out for.

[muskratt]

took it apart and found out that it just had 6 serrated spools but the reason it wouldn't open was because one of the springs was wrapped around the plug locking it. was easy to fix. now easy as pie...

[GutterClown]

it wouldn't open was because one of the springs was wrapped around the plug locking it. was easy to fix. now easy as pie...

Let me be the first to say: Yep, that'll do it.
When I first started, my boss once gave me a 6 pin cylinder to open, and the bastard let me pick at it for half an hour before I asked him what I was doing wrong. He'd superglued the 6th pin in place, I was having the same frustrations you were

[muskratt]

thats just dirty

[maxxx]

What I like about Schlage is their engineers always leave a way in for locksmiths in the field. I have seen posts here about why locksmiths are not involved in the process of designing locks, but I think they are heavily involved with Schlage design.

College Educated Engineer Designers have a tendancy to have their head deposited in a anatomical postition that limits 360* vision. A good locksmith always considers all factors no matter how obscure and remote.

There is always a short cut with Schlage. Even the Primus series.

[kg4boj]

A lot of the time I can snap most schlages with security pins or not, its all about a matter of tap tap tapping on the tension wrench right when you snap with very minimal snapgun tension, I should warn you though, some of the SC kik locks have a pinstack that is capped with a compressable sliding cap that moves up or down when you squeeze it into or out of a knob. I have seen them on occasion fall off the top, especially when some goon at home depot has tried to rekey them, and this isnt from snapping... this is supposedly from day to day wear (what the customers tell me)

They are posssible to pick with even all 5 upper drivers set as serrated or spool pins though, they are just a little more time consuming and require that you ease off ever so gently on the tension now and then and find out witch order the pins will bind in.

[Marco]

I have a Schlage maximum security deadbolt , does anyone have diagram of the internal workings of this baby. Or does anyone have a special technique for picking/ raking

I have one of them. It contains 5 pins and 4 of them are spools. If you don't have any experience with spool pins then i suggest you do a search on them. It's not a hard lock to pick once you get the hang of those spools.

[Iceberg_Slim]

its seems to me that the pin springs are very strong and you have to overcome that.