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Videos are all well and good, but I was wondering if...

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Videos are all well and good, but I was wondering if...

Postby Alucard_00 » 16 Sep 2004 23:41

I was wondering if anyone out there with some spare time would be so kind as to find some pictures of lockpicks to scale, so that I have a rough Idea of how deep to cut, how high to make the hook, etc. :oops: Anyways, your help to a lowly 50.6 K'er whose CPU has more viruses than Micheal Jackson has plastic surgeries would be greatly appreciated. :oops:

BTW, the only material I could get my hands on are Wiper blade inserts, if that makes any difference. once again, I sincerely thank anyone who responds or even reads this post, and I will kiss the moderator's feet if it will prevent them from locking this within a day.
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Postby WhiteHat » 17 Sep 2004 1:51

my CPU has bacteria...but I have broadband so that must be why.... :roll:

if you have a search for "templates" you should find quite a bit of information on this site.

here's a good start:

viewtopic.php?t=2968

:D
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Postby Romstar » 17 Sep 2004 2:46

I know I posted material about this a while back, but for the life of me I can't find the post.

Lets take an HPC medium lifter pick as an example.

The entire pick itself is 12.15 CM long, or exactly 4 and 3/4 inches. It's handle is 8mm high, and 8cm long, or 5/16ths high, and 3 and 3/16ths long. The thickness is 1/32ths, or .7mm. This will be three times as thick if you include handles the same thickness as the pick.

Those are the easy measurements. Take a piece of .025" steel and cut, file or grind to 4 & 3/4 long by 5/16ths wide. This is your complete blank.

The pick tang or blade is 41mm long, or 1 & 5/8ths long.

The taper begins at 4mm or 1/8ths high. Over a length of 1 & 7/16ths or 3.8cm it tapers down to 1.2mm or 1/16ths of an inch. Measuring the height of the hook from the bottom of the tqaper, it's 4mm or 1/8th inch high.

The hook itself has a 25 degree radius along it's bottom edge.

These measurements are all a bit easier to understand if you have something to look at, so see the illustration below.

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Good luck,
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Postby Luke » 17 Sep 2004 4:25

hmmm i love my hpc's...
And a great pick there to.
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Postby abrannan » 17 Sep 2004 8:40

nickz's ftp site has picture packs of a lot of different manufacturer's picks along with a ruler so you can scale the picture to size and take your own measurements. He's got high resolution pics for DSL users, and lower resolution pics for 56k-ers. If you need help taking measurements from within a graphics editing program, there are a number of sites on making replica movie props that detail the technique (They use it to get scale drawings of various movie props from screenshots, even when there's no ruler in the scene).

Here's an example:
http://studiocreations.com/howto/bluepr ... ass01.html
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Postby Alucard_00 » 17 Sep 2004 14:46

hey, thanks for the prompt reply everyone. the only problem I found
is that I couldn't access Nick's FTP server. Any ideas? just post 'em if you've got some free time OK? thanks.
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Postby Wesson357 » 17 Sep 2004 14:52

This thread has picks with rules next to them so it might help:
viewtopic.php?t=2844
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Postby Alucard_00 » 17 Sep 2004 21:50

well, I made my first tow picks, a hook and a half diamond.
they were both made from a piece of 12mm by 2mm by 3/4mm
wiper blades.

:shock: I made the mistake of buying a masterlock that seems to have pins on not one, but both sides to start with. any suggestions? I have searched, and could not find anything. I tried to pick it for 2 and a half hours, but it just didn't seem like the pins were falling into place.

oh yeah, bothe sides of the lock lift out, and it does not swivel.

the key looks like this

####
####++---+++--++-+-
####

with the + being raised pieces, length indicated by # of consecutive pieces, and the - indicaing a lack of a bump. help would be appreciated greatly. :shock:
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Postby WhiteHat » 17 Sep 2004 22:22

that would most likely be a warded lock - have a search for warded locks - you need to get yourself a pin tumbler or make some warded picks...
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Postby randmguy » 17 Sep 2004 22:27

From your description, you are trying to pick a warded padlock. Warded padlocks are very low security padlocks and it is generally very difficult to pick them with pin tumbler picking tools.

If your key looks like the keys on the left side of this image then you have a warded lock.
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The tools in the center of the image are standard warded lock picks. The keys on the right are keys filed down to act as picks. You can take a look here : http://dp.penix.org/locks/cl3.html for more detailed information on opening this type of lock. The description is about halfway down the page.
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Postby Chucklz » 17 Sep 2004 22:37

To fix your viral problem, just download AVG Free edition

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/1/lng/us/tpl/v5

Find a Master #3 or #1 lock to begin with. Or probably even easier, a Kwikset deadbolt.
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Postby Alucard_00 » 18 Sep 2004 12:44

Thanks for all of your help guys. I'll be sure to pay a visit to the Key copy center in Wal-Mart the next tme I go so that I can make some "Master" Masterlock warded keys. (bad pun intended.) :wink: :mrgreen:
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