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Dental Picks? Where?

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Dental Picks? Where?

Postby Bitter Man » 4 Oct 2003 8:39

Hey, I can't seem to find a website that sells the HPC dental pick set. Anyone know anywhere I can find them? HPC's site lists them, but they don't seem to sell them...
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Postby pokerpicker » 4 Oct 2003 14:18

Dental Picks?
Arent those the things they scrape your teeth with at the Dentist, never heard of using those to pick locks but what do i know?

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dental picks

Postby Bitter Man » 5 Oct 2003 9:41

Well, there are actual "dental picks" which are used by dentists to pick teeth. HPC runs a line of picks called "dental-style picks." Its like a short hook, a half diamond and a stake rake attatched to a VERY comfortable dental tool-style handle. Thats what im talkin about
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Dental pciks

Postby Mrpickit » 2 Dec 2003 15:10

I know that there are some cheap dental picks ACE hardware sells at some stores, not sure of the quality. I have some in my house labled Dentek with real nice hand grips. You could always go to the dentist and when he puts one in ur mouth, grab ahold of it with your teeth and take off running. :wink:
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Postby Varjeal » 2 Dec 2003 15:24

Somehow I think it may be difficult to run while screaming in pain with a pick hanging out of your mouth...hehehehe...
*insert witty comment here*
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Postby Mrpickit » 2 Dec 2003 15:33

Well at least you would know that the pick could open something. :P
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Postby Varjeal » 2 Dec 2003 15:46

Good call. :)
*insert witty comment here*
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Postby Hollywood » 10 Dec 2003 11:08

You can always go to your local Flea Market and pick up some dental pics.

at our local flea market theres a booth that seels all kinds of em.

Ill have to go there this weekend and pick some up too play with.
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Postby scrmnnitehog » 30 Dec 2003 7:34

I'm not sure about now.....but I've seen dental picks on Ebay at times. :)
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Postby zeke79 » 30 Dec 2003 12:52

I dont believe he is talking about actual dentist picks. He is talking about a set of lock picks made by hpc called dental style picks. The name refers to the style of handle on the lock picks. Actual dentist picks would not be sturdy enough for picking locks.
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Postby marso » 30 Dec 2003 13:08

Just to defend the poster. The dental pick set by hpc is part number: NDPX.

A link to it can be found on their site at:
http://www.hpcworld.com/lockhpc/p_ndpx.htm

I too have come up empty on a google search. http://www.idncanada.ca/productlist/HPC10.htm prob sell it (they have online ordering and mention it) however I do not know who they are or if they sell to non locksmiths. Mind you I do not know many companies as i am a newbie at this.
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Postby Denis » 31 Dec 2003 20:05

The Dental-Picks are Handmade, so they arent very exactly formed.
Sometimes they are very small and sometimes in the near of the top to big.
But they are made of an exallant steel!
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Postby CitySpider » 1 Jan 2004 2:02

Denis wrote:The Dental-Picks are Handmade, so they arent very exactly formed.
Sometimes they are very small and sometimes in the near of the top to big.
But they are made of an exallant steel!


Really? I believe you, but I find it interesting that a company as large (presumably) as HPC would be handmaking ANYTHING at this point.

You sound like you have this particular set? If so, can I ask where you got them?
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Postby Varjeal » 1 Jan 2004 14:00

IDN Canada, as most suppliers in Canada, is pretty particular about who they sell picks to. Unless your an industry related business you may find it tough to get 'em from there. Good company though. :)
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Postby Chucklz » 1 Jan 2004 14:43

In an earlier thread, I mentioned how to make your very own dental style pickset, for around 10 dollar american. Ill do it again here, but in an abreviated fashion.

1.) Buy some hobby knives, one for each pick you want to make. I made two, a hook and a diamond. Im going to make a few more different hooks once I get some more knives. Here is a link to the knives I use http://www.techniedge.com/html/hobbykn.htm#

2.) Get a nice piece of street sweeper bristle (If you cant find some, buy a few Southord Tw-01 turning tools). You are going to need about 2 inches of length for each pick you wish to make.

3.) Here you have a few options. You can either work with a long piece of bristle, or cut it to about two inches. Whatever is more comfortable for you.

4.) Grind your pick to whatever shape you desire, leaving about a 3/8th to a 1/2 inch of unground bristle to use later. Grind very slowly, and quench extremely frequently, especiallly as you begin to thin the pick down.

5.) Finish the pick. This has not reallly been discussed much here, so I will go into greater detail here. Using 80 grid sandpaper/ small files, finish the fine shaping of your pick, again to whatever shape you desire. Grinding leaves a little burr on the edges of the ground surface. This must be removed, as well as any sharp /square edges. These can scrape and scratch the inside of your lock, leaving brass shavings to really gum things up. For those who are interested, scratches on the pin surfaces and brass dust are two forensic signs of a picked lock.

A quick observation will show that the edges of the bristle/tension tool material has a slight radius. I chose to continue this radius on all ground surfaces, except the very tip of my hook pick. To apply this radius, I used 80 grid sandpaper, followed by 120 grit paper. An even better alternative is a bit of abrasive tape, Number 58 works extremely well. This will very quickly apply a radius and smooth and polish the edge of your pick.

After this, your whole pick should be polished with a green scotchbrite pad. This will remove any roughness, grime etc from your pick, and really shine and polish things nicely. Your goal is to not have any sharp edges. Many experienced pickers recommend removing sharp edges from commercial picks in the same manner.

5.) Completely dissasemble your hobby knife. Take the collet (the piece that holds the blade). You will note that it has two cuts that intersect perpendicular to each other. At this point you have to pick one set of cuts,it doest matter which, just make sure you know which is which.

Now take some 100 grid sandpaper or so, and carefully widen one of the slots. Widen it so that you can just tap the pick to 1/8" of the bottom of the collet. Center your pick in the collet, and reassemble the knife holder. To tighten the knife up, you may need a pair of pliers or something equivalent. And there, you are done.
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