Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Tubular Picking

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Tubular Picking

Postby cuttinedge1 » 31 Jul 2014 7:21

So I just made a tubular tension wrench out of a trucks windshield wiper and will post pictures if any one is interested. I heard you have to pick the tubular lock 8 times because the pins drop back every time you turn. Could you just pick it once and turn it very slightly then use a lighter to partially malt the end of a pen cap and push that into the lock. Would this make a working key of a screwed up lock? I know I should probably shell out the money for a real tubular pick :D
cuttinedge1
 
Posts: 166
Joined: 5 Mar 2014 20:08

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby NinjaLlama » 31 Jul 2014 7:29

cuttinedge1 wrote:I heard you have to pick the tubular lock 8 times because the pins drop back every time you turn. Could you just pick it once and turn it very slightly then use a lighter to partially malt the end of a pen cap and push that into the lock. Would this make a working key of a screwed up lock?


The tubular locks I have only rotate 90° from the locked to unlocked position. You would still have to pick it multiple times to unlock it, but it would be about 3-4 times instead of 8. Although, I suppose the number of times you have to pick it would be determined from how far you wanted it to rotate.

Some tubular locks can be opened just with the pen body due to self-impressioning. I believe this is possible when the key pins are all the same length and the springs have similar force. I imagine this improvised key would wear out fairly quickly with repeated use though.
NinjaLlama
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 51
Joined: 9 Jul 2011 15:41
Location: Oklahoma

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby lamdamu » 31 Jul 2014 20:12

i'm interested in tubular picking, i feel good with normal picking and i think it's time to start learning tubular picking, your photos can help me to do my own lockpicking for tubular.
lamdamu
 
Posts: 1
Joined: 7 Feb 2011 13:16

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby somenewguy » 31 Jul 2014 21:23

lamdamu wrote:i'm interested in tubular picking, i feel good with normal picking and i think it's time to start learning tubular picking, your photos can help me to do my own lockpicking for tubular.


In some ways, it's actually easier; you have all the key pins staring you in the face.
somenewguy
 
Posts: 214
Joined: 7 Sep 2013 15:19

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby cuttinedge1 » 1 Aug 2014 9:18

lamdamu wrote:i'm interested in tubular picking, i feel good with normal picking and i think it's time to start learning tubular picking, your photos can help me to do my own lockpicking for tubular.

You don t have to make a new pick just a new tension wrench. A regular hook can be used to press down tubular pins.
Image
This is the picture I used to make my tension wrench. Paste this image into Microsoft Word and resize the picture until the inside spacing of the top (larger) gap in 1/4 inch and print it out. I used a truck windshield wiper insert so I only made the top part and did not make the warded picks. If you use other steel you can make the whole thing which is pretty cool. If you have a pair of calipers they are very helpful. The only tools you need are needle files.
cuttinedge1
 
Posts: 166
Joined: 5 Mar 2014 20:08

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Aug 2014 21:28

That type of tension wrench is the basis for the tension wrenches I use the most with tubular locks...

These are made with hacksaw blades.

Image

Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
User avatar
GWiens2001
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7550
Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
Location: Arizona, United States

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby cheerIO » 1 Aug 2014 21:51

Can someone post a picture showing how those fit into the locks?

Don't they block access to the pin at 6 o'clock?
cheerIO
 
Posts: 301
Joined: 24 Jun 2014 16:21
Location: Florida

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Aug 2014 22:29

Here you go! The first picture shows how to fit the tension wrench into the lock, the second and third pictures show the two different size tension wrenches in the lock, so you can see how to choose which one fits the lock better.

Image

Image

Image

Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
User avatar
GWiens2001
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7550
Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
Location: Arizona, United States

Re: Tubular Picking

Postby cheerIO » 1 Aug 2014 22:44

Oh, I think I get it.

The gap in the tool is slightly smaller than the line along the diameter of the plug from the bottom of the broaching to the other side of the plug. That way the tool puts a rotational force on the inside edge of the broaching when twisted.

That is a pretty cool tool. I'll have to make a couple of those.

Thanks.
cheerIO
 
Posts: 301
Joined: 24 Jun 2014 16:21
Location: Florida


Return to Lock Picks

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests