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What to buy??

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

What to buy??

Postby radical rob » 3 Feb 2015 15:13

Hi guys and gals,I am currently doing research to find the best LP set to use as a reference in making my own custom picks. I have already used templates and found whats the best material i use, I just want/need a reference for exact sizes and comparison. ( ANY IDEAS OR ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED)...

p.s. I hope i got the right thread this time
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Re: What to buy??

Postby nite0wl » 3 Feb 2015 18:31

Everyone has their own idea of which types of tools and which manufacturers are best.
Personally at a minimum I would suggest Peterson's 0.018" Hook #1, Half-Diamond, and Bogie #2. A ball (or snowman), a city rake, a medium hook, a gonzo hook, a Deforest Diamond, and the three Falle jagged lifters would round out my list for a perfect pick lineup. My personal preference is for Peterson's GSP and Slim GSP line (and their Phoenix GSP kits have very nice cases).
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Re: What to buy??

Postby blue60 » 3 Feb 2015 18:43

I have the PXS-17 set from Southord and for the most part I am happy with them. (but keep in mind I also have a set of DIY pick's) I also have 3 or 4 sets of $5.00 picks from china, they are what I learned to pick with.
I would recommend a cheaper set form one our sponsors till you know what you want from you're lock picks. or if you are just looking for size info check out the forum lots of the templates floating around are set to print to scale so they will be the size you want ;)
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Re: What to buy??

Postby billdeserthills » 3 Feb 2015 22:01

radical rob wrote:Hi guys and gals,I am currently doing research to find the best LP set to use as a reference in making my own custom picks. I have already used templates and found whats the best material i use, I just want/need a reference for exact sizes and comparison. ( ANY IDEAS OR ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED)...

p.s. I hope i got the right thread this time



Sounds to me like you want to find a good set to copy for later sale. I think there are laws against copyright infringement if You plan to sell copies of another companies product.
There is plenty of room for fair competition in the lock trade, why not buy some picking tools and while using them You could formulate Your own ideas for a better mousetrap
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Re: What to buy??

Postby lostoam311 » 6 Feb 2015 18:16

so I purchased the GOSO Tubular Lock pick set... it came with 3 different Tubular Lock picks (7.0, 7.5, and 8) but none of them have the little pin to turn the lock when placed in the lock! The videos that I watched showed all the tubular lock picks with the built in pin at the '12 o'clock' position, so I think that is the reason my lock picks aren't working... The only two locks I have are 7.5, so that's the only pick I've been able to practice with... Does anyone know if I purchased the wrong thing or am I suppose to 'add' something to the pick to make it work??! They didn't come with any instructions or extra tools (just the three 'copper colored' tubular picks with red rubber protective caps!
Thanks for any help and sorry if I posted this in the wrong category...
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Re: What to buy??

Postby billdeserthills » 6 Feb 2015 23:30

lostoam311 wrote:so I purchased the GOSO Tubular Lock pick set... it came with 3 different Tubular Lock picks (7.0, 7.5, and 8) but none of them have the little pin to turn the lock when placed in the lock! The videos that I watched showed all the tubular lock picks with the built in pin at the '12 o'clock' position, so I think that is the reason my lock picks aren't working... The only two locks I have are 7.5, so that's the only pick I've been able to practice with... Does anyone know if I purchased the wrong thing or am I suppose to 'add' something to the pick to make it work??! They didn't come with any instructions or extra tools (just the three 'copper colored' tubular picks with red rubber protective caps!
Thanks for any help and sorry if I posted this in the wrong category...



I once heard a story about a foreign company buying a wood-burning stove. Along the way, as it was being shipped one of the 4 legs broke off. Turned out the foreign company had bought the stove in order to copy it and when it arrived, they went ahead and began producing 3 legged stoves, as that was how the original arrived. From Your description I'm guessing You just bought one of those 3 legged stoves...

My tubular (ace type) lock picks all have a small roll pin installed to correspond to where the tab in the key turns the inner part of the lock. Without that pin, you won't be able to open the lock, even if you do get it picked.
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Re: What to buy??

Postby Frodillicus » 7 Feb 2015 13:21

radical rob wrote:Hi guys and gals,I am currently doing research to find the best LP set to use as a reference in making my own custom picks. I have already used templates and found whats the best material i use, I just want/need a reference for exact sizes and comparison. ( ANY IDEAS OR ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED)...

p.s. I hope i got the right thread this time


If you want to copy pick sizes exactly the best bet you have is transferring the templates you've found directly to the material you're making the picks out of, with reversed grease proof paper or similar, then use hand files, there are loads of real size pdf available of falle picks and of the king and Queen picks and many others, but if you want actual picks to copy, the southord handleless picks I think come up as the cheapest and as they have no protruding handles out the sides they'll esily lay flat on your chosen material and draw around, but as the one who said earlier, copyright infringement is very serious and sometimes it's easier and cheaper just to buy a selection of redily available picks, sometimes you can buy seconds too, I know there are goso available as seconds and in another thread someone mentioned southord seconds were available, but only in the us I guess, not seen any in the UK.

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Re: What to buy??

Postby lostoam311 » 7 Feb 2015 14:40

billdeserthills wrote:
lostoam311 wrote:so I purchased the GOSO Tubular Lock pick set... it came with 3 different Tubular Lock picks (7.0, 7.5, and 8) but none of them have the little pin to turn the lock when placed in the lock! The videos that I watched showed all the tubular lock picks with the built in pin at the '12 o'clock' position, so I think that is the reason my lock picks aren't working... The only two locks I have are 7.5, so that's the only pick I've been able to practice with... Does anyone know if I purchased the wrong thing or am I suppose to 'add' something to the pick to make it work??! They didn't come with any instructions or extra tools (just the three 'copper colored' tubular picks with red rubber protective caps!
Thanks for any help and sorry if I posted this in the wrong category...



I once heard a story about a foreign company buying a wood-burning stove. Along the way, as it was being shipped one of the 4 legs broke off. Turned out the foreign company had bought the stove in order to copy it and when it arrived, they went ahead and began producing 3 legged stoves, as that was how the original arrived. From Your description I'm guessing You just bought one of those 3 legged stoves...

My tubular (ace type) lock picks all have a small roll pin installed to correspond to where the tab in the key turns the inner part of the lock. Without that pin, you won't be able to open the lock, even if you do get it picked.


this is the exact lock pick I purchased! Thus, this is how GOSO makes them... the way you worded it made it sound like the lock picks I received were somehow 'special' or manufactured or built incorrectly... From all the pictures I see online, none of them have the pin at the top... why would they be allowed to continue making this lock pick if it doesn't work...?!! just doesn't make sense! does it work on a certain type of lock and not another...?!
I paid $37 at car key deals for all three sizes because I didn't want to drop $90 on the black Southord that everyone seems to have...
Do you know where to get the Southord for cheaper??! at this point, I'd be willing to purchase another one, but I don't want to invest too much into it... I'm going to see if I can put my GOSO's up on eBay since they won't work for me...
I appreciate the help and input! Thank you

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Re: What to buy??

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Feb 2015 15:39

lostoam311: perhaps I missed it if you already covered this, but why do you need a working tubular pick so bad? Are you a locksmith or a hobbyist? Tubular locks are just not that common these days, so spending another $50-$150 on the proper tubular pick set really has to be justified otherwise you're throwing money away on a tool you may need once a year.

just my 2 cents
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PS. Also, why did you hijack Radical Rob's thread asking which pickset he should buy? I just noticed that after replying.
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Re: What to buy??

Postby lostoam311 » 7 Feb 2015 16:26

I bought a pinball machine with no key and trying to open the door on it...
also have a bike lock that I can't find key for and it's annoying every time I ride my bike having to put a lock over a lock haha.

and yea, I apologize for taking over dude's thread... Just didn't know where to post and some forums don't allow new users to create new threads...

so, that being out of the way, do you know where to find a deal?!! could I rent yours for 20 bucks LOL

I literally only need one for those two things, the idea of 'making a key' once I pick the lock sounds intriguing, but not sure if I'll have the time... I see the Southord comes with that 'key measure tool' (what's the proper name?)

thanks again for everyone's help and input! :)
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