bumpkeys...without keys

by **Minion** » 29 Jul 2005 11:32

Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to, out of a sawblade or the like, be possible to create a bumppick?
cut the piece of metal so that deeper (no need to be deepest) valleys are the spaced as far apart as the pins, then, with a steady hand, align the pick so that it's in the right position, and tap inward (consider it only has to go a short distance) with a mallot or something like it.
See, the only point in having a bump key is to make it so you don't have to do the holding part (which, given the circumstances, would be the most difficult part)

Of course, this is the same theory as that of a pickgun, but I'm just feeling observational.

Feel free to comment and discuss.

by **geno** » 29 Jul 2005 14:05

Minion wrote:Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to, out of a sawblade or the like, be possible to create a bumppick?
cut the piece of metal so that deeper (no need to be deepest) valleys are the spaced as far apart as the pins, then, with a steady hand, align the pick so that it's in the right position, and tap inward (consider it only has to go a short distance) with a mallot or something like it.
See, the only point in having a bump key is to make it so you don't have to do the holding part (which, given the circumstances, would be the most difficult part)

Of course, this is the same theory as that of a pickgun, but I'm just feeling observational.

Feel free to comment and discuss.

I don't think it would work as you are hoping. Since the proper key fits into the keyway with no slack, when you smack it, it will only move in one direction. If you used a pick, there would be much more unintended movement since the pick is floating around in the keyway.

Also.... Considering the ease of which you can find/make a bump key, I don't see a benefit of even attempting this.

by **Minion** » 29 Jul 2005 15:58

Well, the unintended motion (side to side, I'm thinking you're intending) wouldn't matter very much. In addition, this was by no means a foolproof (or practical, hehe) method, just an idea for those who can't get keyblanks and the like.

by **vector40** » 29 Jul 2005 18:54

Sounds like no advantage over just smacking the pins linearly, like a pick gun.

by **cracksman** » 29 Jul 2005 19:40

Theoreticaly, I don't see why your idea wouldn't work. Practically, however, I hope you haven't locked your dog in the car on a hot day, because I'm pretty sure it would be screwed

by **Shrub** » 29 Jul 2005 20:29

Have a look at raimundos bogota picks, they are probably very close to what you are thinking of, you will always have to move in AND out with a hand pick as bumping works on a quick hard shock, somthing the human hand cant reproduce without a lot of pain.

by **Mad Mick** » 29 Jul 2005 21:35

Have a go at ripping...similar-ish principle, but in reverse.

by **Minion** » 30 Jul 2005 4:54

I don't want to have a go at any of it. I ph33r damage to the locks :shock:

Anyway, yeah, couldn't you have something that looks like a drain in a kitchen sink (half sphere(kind of elongated, but you know what I mean) with a hole in the bottom that's caged) to place over the lock, put the pick into the hole, line it up, then hold the pick. As you hit the pick, your skin moves just enough (between your pointer finger and thumb) to allow the pick to move enough to facilitate hitting the pins.

THEORIES! THEY NEVER DIE!!

Yay.

*twitch*

by **Chrispy** » 30 Jul 2005 4:56

That's a lot of effort. Just use bump keys.

by **Santos718** » 30 Jul 2005 8:05

I'm sure that you weren't the first to think of that. Thats why bump keys are around, they show more results.

by **quicklocks** » 30 Jul 2005 8:29

if you are trying to make a tool the works lie bump keys but you want to use it on other types of locks then you come across another problem that of pin spacing all locks dont have identical pin spacing.
your idea may work on a few locks but i got to say you may as well use bump keys

by **fixer** » 30 Jul 2005 8:51

The other problem would be the shape of the keyway. If you made a bump-pick out of flat metal stock, it wouldn't fit into the keyway. Take a look at the Medeco Keymark keyways for an indication of how extreme keyways can get.

by **quickpicks** » 30 Jul 2005 11:21

.Thats quite a good example for tight keyways. I have an ASFIC and I can't even fit my pick in there. The amount of shock that needs to be properly transfered is another good example. Using a material such as hacksaw blade for something of this nature would not be very efficient.

by **quickpicks** » 30 Jul 2005 11:22

Typo. that was supposed to be SFIC

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