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Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Got a question about key machines? not sure what to buy? need a user manual? have some tips for keeping one running well or need help cutting or programming keys? Post here!

Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby Peter Martin » 23 Dec 2020 7:56

Does anyone know of an hand operated key cutter for Ace type keys?
The Herty Gerty is no more...

Chinese machines, or otherwise? I wasn't going to invest in a HPC Scotmans or code machine yet.

Pete
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby Peter Martin » 23 Dec 2020 8:06

Ah... a bit og googlinh woulda helped. Anyone have experience with the KLOM brand tubular cutter? This look inexpensive as a substitute.
HPC also makes a "Shark" which I have not heard of before, for $250 or so.

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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby stratmando » 23 Dec 2020 8:46

Couldn't get the Herty Gurty, did get this Klom, works good enough. Don't know if Mine or all, numbering seem off, Maybe write 1-7 on the Key, so you are cutting in the right spot. Depth was good.
You can pick the lock with an Impression tool. If it turns smoothly, decode and make a key. I would also, pick lock, turn just slightly, then get a good read from the Impression Tool, Decode then copy. Hasn't worn out, haven't given a lot of use. Works
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby stratmando » 23 Dec 2020 8:49

Wouldn't let me edit. Tighten tool good after picking
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby blue60 » 23 Dec 2020 12:26

I have one of the KLOM cutters, for the $50 I spent on it I am happy with it. I have only cut about 20 keys in 3 years but once its setup it is good to go.
took me 2 blanks to work out a method for cutting keys.
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby stratmando » 23 Dec 2020 13:43

blue60 wrote:I have one of the KLOM cutters, for the $50 I spent on it I am happy with it. I have only cut about 20 keys in 3 years but once its setup it is good to go.
took me 2 blanks to work out a method for cutting keys.


Seemed liked pin position numbers were off, did you have that issue? I may have gotten one with wrong numbering?
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby demux » 23 Dec 2020 14:00

I have one of the Klom ones as well, I'm pretty happy with it. The depth calibration on mine was way off when I got it, but it's pretty easy to adjust. I would suggest only using brass blanks with it though if you want it to last for a while, I'm not sure I'd trust the cutter to go through a bunch of anything harder than that.
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby Peter Martin » 23 Dec 2020 14:16

Are the ILCO 1137S blanks brass or steel?

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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby Peter Martin » 23 Dec 2020 14:17

OK, another "duh"... 1137S = steel. 1137B = brass.

Shoulda known.

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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby blue60 » 23 Dec 2020 15:03

stratmando wrote:
blue60 wrote:I have one of the KLOM cutters, for the $50 I spent on it I am happy with it. I have only cut about 20 keys in 3 years but once its setup it is good to go.
took me 2 blanks to work out a method for cutting keys.


Seemed liked pin position numbers were off, did you have that issue? I may have gotten one with wrong numbering?


I had no issues with the one I received.
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby billdeserthills » 23 Dec 2020 18:06

Peter Martin wrote:OK, another "duh"... 1137S = steel. 1137B = brass.

Shoulda known.

Pete



I actually had a client the other day who insisted on my using the 1137S keys, I had to charge extra to cut them by hand, cause my Scottsman doesn't have a steel cutter in it



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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby bobhdus » 28 Mar 2022 14:08

I know your looking for a hand operated cutter but just thought I’d mention that if you have an HPC 1200 type machine they do have an attachment for some of the blitz models that will allow you to cut tubular keys on them. It’s definitely cheaper than the scottsman. https://youtu.be/7Kc0Ss6-nRo
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Re: Ace key cutter? (Herty Gerty substitute?)

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Nov 2024 20:13

Peter Martin wrote:Does anyone know of an hand operated key cutter for Ace type keys?
The Herty Gerty is no more...

Chinese machines, or otherwise? I wasn't going to invest in a HPC Scotmans or code machine yet.

Pete
Sioux Falls, SD



Lockmasters is now selling the Hurdy Gurdy, part #HG2-KIT only $250!
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