Blade for Hudson BW-598B

[pcm81]

Just got a good deal on ebay on BW-598B. Among regular brass keys i am looking to cut couple Schlage L keyway steel keys. Is there a compatible carbide wheel i can purchase for this machine or is HSS wheels are my only option?

Thanks ahead

[mseifert]

I would think the blade will still cut the Steel Key, but you just lower the life span .. Maybe use a older wheel if you are only going to cut a couple keys..

[mseifert]

I would think the blade will still cut the Steel Key, but you just lower the life span .. Maybe use a older wheel if you are only going to cut a couple keys..

But I am not sure why you would want a steel key .. Everything I have seen says it is a bad idea from Rust, to internal lock wear, extreme wear on cutting equipment.

[pcm81]

I would think the blade will still cut the Steel Key, but you just lower the life span .. Maybe use a older wheel if you are only going to cut a couple keys..

But I am not sure why you would want a steel key .. Everything I have seen says it is a bad idea from Rust, to internal lock wear, extreme wear on cutting equipment.

Schlage L keys are the grand-master to the entire classic schlage system and the blanks are only made of steel, I am guessing b/c they have to be extra thin...

[pcm81]

Received the L blank today, just tried cutting a 6x0 cut on it. The stock blade is definitely not meant to cut it, very jittery. Would literally be better off with diamond hand file. If anyone knows compatible carbide blades, please speak up.

[pcm81]

UPDATE:
Received the carbide blade last night. It cuts keys like butter, but for the steel shlage L keyway keys, it bends them in addition to cutting. The chips are clearly much larger than from the fine toothed HSS blade. Trying to move the blank in slower did not really help, still too deep of a bite on every tooth, resulting in large chips and bent blank. Might practice a bit in future, but for now i am out of steel blanks.

[UnlockingBoredom]

What is the speed of your cutting wheel?
I have a Rytan 100 and want the Carbide cutting wheel but they say that It works best with their carbide cutting wheel kit as it raises the speed from around 900rpm to 2000rpm for cutting steel keys.

I just dont have the 800.00 for the kit

[billdeserthills]

I would think the blade will still cut the Steel Key, but you just lower the life span .. Maybe use a older wheel if you are only going to cut a couple keys..

But I am not sure why you would want a steel key .. Everything I have seen says it is a bad idea from Rust, to internal lock wear, extreme wear on cutting equipment.

Schlage L keys are the grand-master to the entire classic schlage system and the blanks are only made of steel, I am guessing b/c they have to be extra thin...

That's funny, the schlage 'L' keys I have are all brass or nickel silver. Since they are all steel, mine must be a special prototype, huh??
In fact the only steel schlage 'L' keys I have, I bought to replace the blade on my kwik-pull with...

[pcm81]

Steel versions are he first ones i saw on Amazon. It appears that there are also brass versions; which i did not realize existed until about 10 minutes ago. Brass versions will definitely make things simpler.

Thank you.

[cledry]

Steel versions are he first ones i saw on Amazon. It appears that there are also brass versions; which i did not realize existed until about 10 minutes ago. Brass versions will definitely make things simpler.

Thank you.

I try to avoid the L section, it almost is always not needed. Schlage is a multiplex system so there are better alternatives. If you are using the L section I would say nickel silver is the way to go.

[pcm81]

Steel versions are he first ones i saw on Amazon. It appears that there are also brass versions; which i did not realize existed until about 10 minutes ago. Brass versions will definitely make things simpler.

Thank you.

I try to avoid the L section, it almost is always not needed. Schlage is a multiplex system so there are better alternatives. If you are using the L section I would say nickel silver is the way to go.

I totally agree, but since i am a hobbyist, rather than an actual locksmith, it's just easier for me to keep 20 L section blanks for the occasional scenario that friends or family need a schlage duplicate, than keeping all schlage keyway blanks.

[cledry]

Steel versions are he first ones i saw on Amazon. It appears that there are also brass versions; which i did not realize existed until about 10 minutes ago. Brass versions will definitely make things simpler.

Thank you.

I try to avoid the L section, it almost is always not needed. Schlage is a multiplex system so there are better alternatives. If you are using the L section I would say nickel silver is the way to go.

I totally agree, but since i am a hobbyist, rather than an actual locksmith, it's just easier for me to keep 20 L section blanks for the occasional scenario that friends or family need a schlage duplicate, than keeping all schlage keyway blanks.

90% of the keys will be C keyway anyway so I still don't see the point. You can buy C blanks, a few E blanks and cover most of the older stuff out there at a lot less money than buying L section. The newer Everest stuff the L won't work for anyway.

[pcm81]

Yeah, i got C covered with SC1 and SC4. I figured for the rest i can just keep couple L's.

[pcm81]

You might appreciate this little mod i did a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9rVv4V2IA