cutter sharpening

[UnlockingBoredom]

Is Gilray the only place that sharpens cutters?
I should have purchased HPC cutters.. These Raise cutters are not the same size and to have all 4 of them cut down and sharpened it would be $160.00

I guess going cheap isnt really cheap..

[TORCH [of KCK]]

Not considered resharpening, just bought an extra set & haven't worn out my primary...

But, would think that you can check in to a bit & cutter company. Not sure what ones are close to you. But Beaver tool company (in KCK) has sharpened odd bits for a previous employer. May or may not want to check out.
http://www.beaverdrill.com
(What can it hurt)

[jimu57]

GilRay is the only shop I would trust. About 20% the cost of a new cutter, depending on which one. I have them sharpen 3 23RF cutters. They cut better than new ones. Going to send off Framon cutters soon. Might just have to bite the bullet for $160. I dont think you will be disappointed.

[UnlockingBoredom]

Well dang.... Oh well I guess I will just eat the cost when I can. These Raise cutters cut very good but I hate having to go through the steps to adjust the depth every time I want to change a cutter. I have to send them all in at the same time so they can make sure that they are all the same size after.

My nephew is a locksmith and working for peanuts where he is, Im just trying to get my machines in good working order so he can use them and get away from the company he works for now.

[billdeserthills]

I think you are making a bigger deal out of adjusting the key machine than it needs to be

[UnlockingBoredom]

No, Im just looking at trying to get this HPC1200 to work like it was meant to... All the cutters are supposed to be 2.375 but the Raise are all different from that and each other. Im trying to get them cut so that when I give my machine to my nephew, he doesnt have to adjust it every time he wants to cut a different key with a different cutting wheel.

If you are a Locksmith you should know that time is money and adjusting a machine each time is not something that saves either

[billdeserthills]

No, Im just looking at trying to get this HPC1200 to work like it was meant to... All the cutters are supposed to be 2.375 but the Raise are all different from that and each other. Im trying to get them cut so that when I give my machine to my nephew, he doesnt have to adjust it every time he wants to cut a different key with a different cutting wheel.

If you are a Locksmith you should know that time is money and adjusting a machine each time is not something that saves either

I am a locksmith, however this is the 1st time you mentioned these 4 cutting wheels are for your HPC1200

Oh and that 'If you was a locksmith you should know that time is money' thing you said--Right back atcha, pro

[tpark]

I am only a hobbyist, but when I change the cutter, a calibration is in order. My IC cutter is a tad bit higher than the standard one, so it's worth doing a check for depth before cutting keys. The key clamp jigs for the Framon machine are pretty good, but if I've changed the jig, I like to check depth before cutting keys. BTW, if you're paying $160.00 for Framon cutters, you might want to look around. I could probably find a calibration point where all the cutters were close enough, but not exactly on. If I was originating keys that would be duplicated, I'd want to have them cut as accurately as possible. Inaccurately cut key can't help a smith's reputation.

[UnlockingBoredom]

No, Im just looking at trying to get this HPC1200 to work like it was meant to... All the cutters are supposed to be 2.375 but the Raise are all different from that and each other. Im trying to get them cut so that when I give my machine to my nephew, he doesnt have to adjust it every time he wants to cut a different key with a different cutting wheel.

If you are a Locksmith you should know that time is money and adjusting a machine each time is not something that saves either

I am a locksmith, however this is the 1st time you mentioned these 4 cutting wheels are for your HPC1200

Oh and that 'If you was a locksmith you should know that time is money' thing you said--Right back atcha, pro

Bill, if you want to quote me... at least get it right.
If you are a Locksmith you should know that time is money and adjusting a machine each time is not something that saves either

I was not trying to be hostile to you but you seem to be taking it that way. I have not been on here for a while but I have made posts in this forum about my HPC1200 and when I put in my original post that I should have bought the HPC cutters I was thinking that it was a given that I was talking about the HPC1200.

And no I am not a locksmith but what does that matter in my question about a service? I am trying to do a favor to my nephew by giving him my equipment because I have not been using it, I come here to ask a question and then you mis-quote me and take offence to the mis-quote? if that is the case then I am sorry that I didnt say it the way you took it.

I dont need crap for your misreading what I said

[GWiens2001]

Time out, guys.

Gordon

[Tyler J. Thomas]

If you are a Locksmith you should know that time is money and adjusting a machine each time is not something that saves either

Adjusting or servicing parts doesn't save money implicitly but neither does ruining a handful, or more, of key blanks for that matter.

That's just the cost of doing business, err wait, let me pick a better phrase: par for the course. You find me a duplicator or code machine that cuts indefinitely without calibration and/or wheel sharpening and I'll eat my hat. They don't exist. It's 100% analogous to routine maintenance for a car, lawnmower, whatever machine you can think of. Just something we all have to do.

Sharpening a cutting wheel is far more economical than purchasing a brand new one, save for an insane, out-of-this-world deal.