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Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby YouLuckyFox » 27 May 2013 1:19

I understand a Slim Jim can hit a lot of wires inside the door panel and cause problems with electrical components. Is this so?
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby GWiens2001 » 27 May 2013 1:40

Absolutely true. I see it happen all the time.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby victorpham » 27 May 2013 22:36

now I'm having trouble with the bmw x6 model 2008.(ir: 315 MHz or 868 MHz).after program key to start the vehicles. I can’t programming remote ( I Tried both key ir 315 MHz and 868 MHz ).key fob (all doors shut,turn ignition on and off within 5s.remove the key and hold the unlock for 15s,press lock 3 times within 5s.release both buttons.but doors don’t lock and unlock.)

what I have to do???
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby Squelchtone » 27 May 2013 22:44

victorpham wrote:now I'm having trouble with the bmw x6 model 2008.(ir: 315 MHz or 868 MHz).after program key to start the vehicles. I can’t programming remote ( I Tried both key ir 315 MHz and 868 MHz ).key fob (all doors shut,turn ignition on and off within 5s.remove the key and hold the unlock for 15s,press lock 3 times within 5s.release both buttons.but doors don’t lock and unlock.)

what I have to do???


Please call the company that makes your programmer. They should provide you with all needed instructions for each make and model vehicle.

Your question is too specific to expect someone here to answer it for you, we are not technical support for BMW or for your key programming equipment.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby dll932 » 10 Jun 2013 23:09

slimjims rarely work on anything made after about '80 anyhow-horizontal and / or guarded linkage.?
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby GWiens2001 » 11 Jun 2013 8:45

Not to mention cables with plastic ends that like to break.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby 2octops » 11 Jun 2013 18:48

dll932 wrote:slimjims rarely work on anything made after about '80 anyhow-horizontal and / or guarded linkage.?


I disagree.

Still very useful tool on at least 4 major mfgs up to 2008 ish. Still very effective on 2 major US mfgs today.
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby dll932 » 11 Jun 2013 19:44

Perhaps, but I'd much rather use an airjack.
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby bjornnrojb » 23 Jul 2013 14:58

The slimjim can muck up lots of things, not the least of which are the side airbags now found in many vehicles' doors. Pop one of those and you have TOTALED the car. If you want to screw around with slimjims I recommend you do what I did and go to a pick-a-part and practice all day on all the cars there. Then you know what cars it will work on.
Thinking about totaling a car makes those car lock decoders seem cheap by comparison, doesn't it?
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby Altashot » 23 Jul 2013 18:52

Slim Jims don't TOTAL cars!!!
In skillful hands they are very effective tools. They still work on many late model vehicles and I used mine a lot. I never broke anything in a door cavity. I heard the stories of people dying when an airbag deployed
and shot their tool into their head and I have seen damage caused by an improperly used Slim Jim.
I don't know how someone can total a car with a Slim Jim, but if it can be done, only a World Class retard can do it.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby GWiens2001 » 23 Jul 2013 22:00

Any time somebody makes something idiot proof, somebody else makes a better idiot. :D

You can do a lot of damage with improperly used slim jims or in-the-door opening tools. The worst is breaking or disconnecting the latch, in which case you might, as a worst case scenario, have to cut open the inner door panel to gain access. It can be expensive, but total the car? Not even close. Unless the company has placed a VERY low value on the car. That could happen, I guess.

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby bjornnrojb » 24 Jul 2013 19:57

I don't doubt that they are great tools for even late model cars in the hands of an expert. I use mine myself when I get old trucks or contractor vans. I'm just saying that I don't have the kahunas to go fishing around in a door with airbags. If you poke the wrong part of the airbag with a slimjim, you can deploy it. If you deploy the airbag, it will frequently cost more to fix than the car is worth, meaning the car is totaled. Just something for the beginners to think about when making decisions about hardware is all.
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby 2octops » 24 Jul 2013 22:46

No you can't. That's not how airbags work. They do not have any power going to them in the harness until the module sends a signal to them.

Airbags are the least of your worries inside a door with a slim jim.
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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby Evan » 24 Jul 2013 22:57

2octops wrote:No you can't. That's not how airbags work. They do not have any power going to them in the harness until the module sends a signal to them.

Airbags are the least of your worries inside a door with a slim jim.


Correct, but the circuits for the power door locks do have power in them, so it is possible, although unlikely, that if you rooted around long enough with a slim jim not knowing what you were doing and skinned enough wires that you could provide an alternative power source to the air bag to detonate it...

Also, the air bags must have some sort of signal being sent to them along their power wiring as there are power on checks and an indicator light on the dash will illuminate when one or more air bags are non-functional...

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Re: Business Questions? Ask a Locksmith.

Postby GordonAlexander » 3 Aug 2013 23:44

There are many different bypass tools that use different procedures to open certain vehicles. You can open a lot of vehicles with a standard slim jim, but you will scatch the glass if you simply stick it in and fish around. Airbag is all you need to avoid having to be an expert. Some cars won't open by lifting the interior handle when the door is locked, so if you know this beforehand it might be useful to use a bypass tool instead of simply airwedging the door and going in with a reach tool.
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