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GMS MX2 keyway

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GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 9 Feb 2016 20:07

Anyone use the GMS MX2 key system? I need a way to keep the local box stores from duplicating keys for a business, but they do not have the need or want for a BEST system. I am wanting opinions, pro or con before I place an initial order.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby jimu57 » 9 Feb 2016 21:27

Not being a locksmith, I don't know much about controlled key systems. I understand that with GMS, keyways are not proprietary but restricted. You are protected by only assign a particular keyway profile in your area. Not sure how wide the area is. You will also have to sign a contract, I think, and also agree to purchase a certain number of blanks year. Would Schlage Everest be a better route? Just curious. I am still learning. Question.... would CX5 be a viable alternative?

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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 9 Feb 2016 21:42

jimu57 wrote:Not being a locksmith, I don't know much about controlled key systems. I understand that with GMS, keyways are not proprietary but restricted. You are protected by only assign a particular keyway profile in your area. Not sure how wide the area is. You will also have to sign a contract, I think, and also agree to purchase a certain number of blanks year. Would Schlage Everest be a better route? Just curious. I am still learning. Question.... would CX5 be a viable alternative?

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Cost of entry is the main reason. The added security of the Schlage Everest side bar is not really needed in this case. The Schlage Everest is almost as expensive as the BEST system by the time I get the components the client needs.

I have the paperwork/information for the MX2 and my distributor suggested it, but I am not finding any real world reviews.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby jimu57 » 9 Feb 2016 21:45

There was discussion on here about the MX sometime around 2011. Not sure what is different with the MX2.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Feb 2016 23:26

Why not just use the lori 80 or 90 series, or even LSDA's proprietary keyway? I bet they are lots cheaper and don't sell their key to the hardware store
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 9 Feb 2016 23:40

billdeserthills wrote:Why not just use the lori 80 or 90 series, or even LSDA's proprietary keyway? I bet they are lots cheaper and don't sell their key to the hardware store


None of my distributors stock Lori (Ilco owns them now?). Even HL Flake doesn't stock it. The GMS is not cost prohibitive, much cheaper than Schlage Everest.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Feb 2016 23:46

shutterstuff wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:Why not just use the lori 80 or 90 series, or even LSDA's proprietary keyway? I bet they are lots cheaper and don't sell their key to the hardware store


None of my distributors stock Lori (Ilco owns them now?). Even HL Flake doesn't stock it. The GMS is not cost prohibitive, much cheaper than Schlage Everest.



Schlage Everest offers a higher security alternative and should cost more.
McDonald Dash sells Ilco 80/90 cylinders for under $8.50
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 10 Feb 2016 0:06

billdeserthills wrote:Schlage Everest offers a higher security alternative and should cost more.
McDonald Dash sells Ilco 80/90 cylinders for under $8.50


I do not have an account with McDonald Dash. I did find the Ilco 80 instead of the Lori 80 at my regular distributor. But the cost seems to be just a bit less than the MX2.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby jimu57 » 10 Feb 2016 8:38

Run with MX2. Case closed.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 10 Feb 2016 9:12

jimu57 wrote:Run with MX2. Case closed.


LOL. I am probably going to do that. I was hoping to find someone that has actually used it. But it was good to learn about Lori/Ilco 80 as I was not aware of that low cost option.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby jeffmoss26 » 10 Feb 2016 11:53

there are multiple MX kewyays - 1, 2, etc in numerical order. I know HL Flake is the sole supplier of a few of them, and you sign a contract in order to purchase cylinders and blanks.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby zeke79 » 12 Feb 2016 15:24

I have an MX keyway from flake. I dont think you will be disappointed for the cost. Just know that while it offers some protection there is nothing to stop someone from buying the blanks on ebay.

Overall I have been more than happy with it for what it is.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby shutterstuff » 12 Feb 2016 16:05

zeke79 wrote:I have an MX keyway from flake. I dont think you will be disappointed for the cost. Just know that while it offers some protection there is nothing to stop someone from buying the blanks on ebay.

Overall I have been more than happy with it for what it is.


Thank you! I just need to stop people from going to the hardware stores and box stores for copies. Small businesses cannot afford some of the other options, especially if they only need a couple locks and a dozen keys. The company that started me on the lower cost quest needs 35 or so padlocks. I can do the MX keyway for about half of a BEST. Schlage Everest was my second choice before I was told about the MX program.
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Re: GMS MX2 keyway

Postby Canon5d » 10 Jun 2017 23:43

I have MX1 and MX2 good keys and locks .. nice and tight .. better than LSDA
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