Worn Pins

[1mrchristopher]

It was Adams-Rite, but what was stripped were the screw holes in the door itself, I couldn't very well leave them unsecured, and it seems that all that was holding the lock body in had been the mortise cylinders, which may account for the terrible wear on the plug. I suppose I could have tried selling them a new door, but that seems a bit extreme, given that it was such an easy fix. My service call charge is $45.00, and I am not going to charge them a second one. Fortunately it takes all of 2 minutes to swap out a mortise cylinder, and the place is less than a mile from my house. Still not great business, not having a cylinder in stock, but I stand firmly by my decision to replace the screws and re-thread the holes in the door. I've been buying GMS cylinders which do cost a bit more than $4 at the suppliers I've been using, but the do seem quite good. Is there a brand that you guys prefer over them?

[billdeserthills]

I rather imagined it was an actual mortise lock, in my area of custom homes I see many of them.I really hate the Xbouvet mortise locks, they are too complicated and the stampings are too flimsy leading to pissed-off clients bending internal parts when they get mad at the locks for jamming up.
Accurate is definately a close second for my flimsy, easy to break mortise lock awards.

So 1mrchristopher, which was it? Adams/Rite or the real thing?

[1mrchristopher]

Adams-Rite brand in an aluminum/glass storefront style door.

[billdeserthills]

Adams-Rite brand in an aluminum/glass storefront style door.

I would have been scared to re-tap that to 10/24, for my own liability. I would have felt way more comfortable just getting a new one out of my van & replacing it. I don't like the pot-metal cylinders, but there are probably more in use than brass.

[1mrchristopher]

Bill, I'm not certain we are on the same page.

The holes which were stripped were the two in the aluminum body of the door itself, which the long machine screws (10-32) run through to secure the lock body to the door. Do you mean that you would replace the entire door because of this?

The lock body itself was in great shape apart from 15 years of dirt and grime, which flushed right off with a liberal dose of Houdini. The set screws were fine, the action was still tight, good in every way.

The original mortise cylinders were brass, and the interior cylinder was still in fine shape, but the external cylinder, which saw all the action, was shot. I put a die-cast in temporarily, and will be replacing with a GMS brass cylinder on Tuesday.

[billdeserthills]

I'm sorry 1mrchristopher, I was thinking the mortise cylinder retaining screws were stripped. Sounds like you did good Man

[1mrchristopher]

Whew, I was getting really concerned that I was completely off base with my repair. I couldn't figure out what I could have done differently short of using Cold Weld and re tapping at 10-32, even then I'd have had to replace the screws as the threads on those were pretty rough as well.

[cledry]

I would caution you if you retap those holes. If you just run the tap in a bit too far and touch the glass it will shatter. I use bridges, much safer. Adams Rite or GKL bridges work fine and are safer to install. Actually you could have just tabbed the door too which is even more secure and very easy and inexpensive. I don't re-tap the existing holes due to past experiences.

[1mrchristopher]

I was very aware of the glass, bridges and tabs eh? Would you show us a picture of what those look like, or PM me a link? I'm ready and willing to learn and do better, I was just doing the best with what I had.

[billdeserthills]

A/R Lock mounting methods
http://www.adamsrite.com/en/site/adamsr ... id=1318806

[cledry]

I was very aware of the glass, bridges and tabs eh? Would you show us a picture of what those look like, or PM me a link? I'm ready and willing to learn and do better, I was just doing the best with what I had.

Adams Rite bridge installed.



Adams Rite bridge.



Adams Rite tabs.

[1mrchristopher]

Hey, would you look at that, more must have items! (See, he can be taught! )

[1mrchristopher]

I especially like the "resilient washer"

[1mrchristopher]

It took me a while, but here are the pictures, as promised.

First the bottom pins and what remained of the springs upon disassembly:


Second, the bottom pins standing:


And last the cylinder and plug:

[GWiens2001]

Oh, yeah. It had some light concerns. Put it through a smelter, extruder, and some machining, it will be good as new.

Especially that middle key pin. The springs - yeah, they were shot.

Thanks for the entertaining pictures!

Gordon