custom door for high crime area.

[cledry]

The Pine Hills area of Orlando known locally as Crime Hills is a place that is tough on hardware, especially if you are a liquor store. One local shop had been broken into several times on their back door. The first back door was a normal door with two Medeco deadbolts, one on the hinge side and one on the normal side, a lever lock and a custom steel locking bar. The thieves peeled it open like a can of sardines.

Next they had a 16 ga door installed with a custom welded lock which projected two 1/2 inch by 2 inch steel bolts two inches into each jamb. This also had a Schlage HD deadbolt installed. Again the thieves bent it into a pretzel.

Next we were called and installed a 16 ga door, a Roton, 3 exit security bars, a Grade 2 generic deadbolt and covered the door and overlapped the frame with 7 ga cold rolled plate.

We had to cut away some concrete to fit the the Roton which we installed opposite to the original hinges, the door had to be cut to fit and we had to move the rain hood up an inch to clear the plate.

It feels like a vault door but we'll have to wait to see how well it holds up. A few photos are below.

[johnb007]

That's one solid-looking door! Gives me some ideas.

[fgarci03]

Cledry, that door looks good!

But you guys missed one point!
All the thieves have to do now is to take down the wall surrounding the door and go around it

[beancurd]

Cledry, that door looks good!

But you guys missed one point!
All the thieves have to do now is to take down the wall surrounding the door and go around it

That's a good point... Wouldn't the walls surrounding it have be re-inforced like a bank vault as well. Thieves have been known to steal a digger from nearby roadworks and demolish a wall to get in!

(Round where I live, they'd steal the door and sell it for scrap metal! .)

[fgarci03]

Cledry, that door looks good!

But you guys missed one point!
All the thieves have to do now is to take down the wall surrounding the door and go around it

That's a good point... Wouldn't the walls surrounding it have be re-inforced like a bank vault as well. Thieves have been known to steal a digger from nearby roadworks and demolish a wall to get in!

(Round where I live, they'd steal the door and sell it for scrap metal! .)

Well, I was joking

Taking down a wall makes much more noise than "peeling" or even taking down the door. I don't see it as a real thread, altough the digger stealing is a possibility. Do you see it happening on a licour store? I've heard of those methods for ATM's and such but....

What do you think?

[Squelchtone]

Nice job on that door!

I have a friend who rents space in an old warehouse for his engineering design startup and I'll probably be picking your brain on how to secure some of the doors there.

Does the liquor store have any lighting out back where this door is, or a Pelco or other imposing camera enclosure or dome over that door? I bet that would help as a deterrent. Im putting cameras, as well as camera warning decals on all the warehouse doors and the dock, and the landlord has already started putting up exterior lights at all doors.

I found some Camera warning stickers in English and Spanish on ebay, they are 9x11 inches, unlike normal alarm company stickers that you have to walk up to a door to see what they say.

Thanks for sharing your install photos, well done.
Squelchtone

[cledry]

There are several cameras and lights but that didn't really deter the thieves in the past. One issue is that the alarm sensor is a simple reed and magnet affair for the back door so won't go off until the door is wrecked and the thieves are likely in. We had the owner have his alarm company add a sensor to the door that triggers someone pounding on it, although he might get a few false alarms it might help preserve his expensive door.

I didn't want to add a deadbolt, that was his requirement for daytime use and when he goes out to empty the trash. The thieves could pound off the deadbolt and conceivably put a strong tow hook threw the hole and rip the door and frame out with a truck.

The entire job came in for our part at @ $2700

[cledry]

Cledry, that door looks good!

But you guys missed one point!
All the thieves have to do now is to take down the wall surrounding the door and go around it

That's a good point... Wouldn't the walls surrounding it have be re-inforced like a bank vault as well. Thieves have been known to steal a digger from nearby roadworks and demolish a wall to get in!

(Round where I live, they'd steal the door and sell it for scrap metal! .)

You can only do so much. It would be much easier to break into the spaces on either side that aren't very well secured and just go through the gypsum board wall. Then there is an entire roof with big vents and AC units on.