This area is for discussing the installation and troubleshooting of access control, prox reader, strikes, or electronic prox fob and keypad locks. No bypass or Advanced techniques please.
I have a customer that rents virtual office space. He wants a keypad entry for the front door that will do basic audit trail (who and when). The door is currently an Adams Rite swing bolt narrow stile aluminum glass door.
The Alarm Lock brand is really overkill (and over budget), but I saw some of the DIY done on this site and wondered if an IEI or similar would be more economical. My thought is an HES style electric strike with a keypad control. But it needs to be unlocked during regular business hours. I suggested the Alarm Lock DL1300 but that is over his budget by the time software/cable and my labor is added in.
Unless you supply free labor the Alarm Lock is the best and cheapest way to go. For the HES to work you will need the strike, several extended lip extensions, the keypad, Adams Rite latch, power supply, wiring, push paddle, labor to cut the frame etc.
Suggest that you ask about future plans I had a customer who asked for simple access control ( door locking and unlocking at designated times) After the install and some time The customer asked "can we add remote opening" If I'd known at the start about the possible expansion of features That the customers wanted i would have gone a full panel Rather than a simple 1 door control plus timer.
Learn from my mistake Allow for expansion And confirm the customers current and future plans
A keypad on the door is going to be the best option. Even with an IEI, they'll be paying for the peripheral devices to pull the audit report. I don't know who your supplier is or what you pay or if they're running specials but you might find a Kaba ePlex is cheaper than it's Alarm Lock counterpart.
One other option, you MAY be able to find an electronic key cabinet that allows auditing at the cabinet itself or when connected to a computer. My MorseWatchman does this at work but that's obviously far, far beyond your budget - granted it tracks a lot more keys than what you'll need. If you can find something under the budget, throw in a restricted cylinder and assign each user their own key. Another option would be a narcotics box or safe with similar features.
I couldnt find another site for it. It offers all the features you want. You can have it cheap....I just wanna get rif of it. It's brand new in the box, but dicontinued
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I am leaning to the Alarm Lock DL3000 for the reasons mentioned above. The kicker is the narrow stile and in looking at the Kaba, I would need the 5000 series for audit control and I did not see a narrow stile version.
I did talk about controlled keyway, but the issue is people forgetting their key and he wants to know who goes in after hours. His alarm system is not that sophisticated.
That said, I would love to learn more about access control for places with more than one door. I was asked about this a few months ago for an office with 3 exterior doors, but when I started talking numbers, he was no longer interested... he thought he could do the whole thing for not much more that Home Depot prices on electronic locks.
I couldnt find another site for it. It offers all the features you want. You can have it cheap....I just wanna get rif of it. It's brand new in the box, but dicontinued
Tempting but not for this application as stated above we need narrow stile for the door.
how about the Adams Rite 4300 electrified deadlatch? fits right into the MS prep, but it will require some sort of control system or a prox reader, as well as power wires at the hinge.
The AlarmLock stuff is nice however since it has batteries in the unit.
Squelchtone wrote:how about the Adams Rite 4300 electrified deadlatch? fits right into the MS prep, but it will require some sort of control system or a prox reader, as well as power wires at the hinge.
The AlarmLock stuff is nice however since it has batteries in the unit.
The control for the Adams Rite is more than the Alarm Lock. I have installed and programed several Alarm Lock units in the past and I really do like them. My only real complaint is the cost of their software and proprietary cable. OK for multiple lock installations, but for a single lock install like this one, it is kind of a steep but needed add on.
Squelchtone wrote:how about the Adams Rite 4300 electrified deadlatch? fits right into the MS prep, but it will require some sort of control system or a prox reader, as well as power wires at the hinge.
The AlarmLock stuff is nice however since it has batteries in the unit.
The control for the Adams Rite is more than the Alarm Lock. I have installed and programed several Alarm Lock units in the past and I really do like them. My only real complaint is the cost of their software and proprietary cable. OK for multiple lock installations, but for a single lock install like this one, it is kind of a steep but needed add on.
Have you looked at the associated costs to pull an audit trail from an IEI keypad? Lol.
As for the Kaba E-Plex, you don't need a 5000 series. You would need a 3000 series.
Anyways I'm going to help you out a bit since it sounds like you're not too familiar with the E-Plex line. You don't pay for the standard version of the software; it's available for free on their website. You will also need their proprietary PCM-unit, which lists at $175 (again, I don't know your distributor or what you pay but eClark will sell it to me at $111.23).
That's all you need to pull an audit report for a Kaba E-Plex 3000 series.
Just doing a cursory glance on eClark:
$386.29 for a E3065 $111.23 for the PCM-unit
My cost: $497.52
My cost for DL1300 using the same Adams Rite 4000 strike is $408.22, not counting their software/hardware to pull an audit trail.
Confederate wrote:Anyways I'm going to help you out a bit since it sounds like you're not too familiar with the E-Plex line. You don't pay for the standard version of the software; it's available for free on their website. You will also need their proprietary PCM-unit, which lists at $175 (again, I don't know your distributor or what you pay but eClark will sell it to me at $111.23).
That's all you need to pull an audit report for a Kaba E-Plex 3000 series.
Just doing a cursory glance on eClark:
$386.29 for a E3065 $111.23 for the PCM-unit
My cost: $497.52
My cost for DL1300 using the same Adams Rite 4000 strike is $408.22, not counting their software/hardware to pull an audit trail.
HL Flake has lower prices than Clark on those models and my local distributor does not stock that model. The Alarm Lock DL1300 is about the same price.
HLF DL1300 $335.38, software/cable 119.09 HLF E3065 $346.22 but cannot find the PCM.
So both are very close.
Thanks for pointing me to the right part number on the Kaba! I was looking at the 5000 series and they are not narrow stile.
I couldnt find another site for it. It offers all the features you want. You can have it cheap....I just wanna get rif of it. It's brand new in the box, but dicontinued
How would you install that on this door? You are just trying to sell your old junk.
Squelchtone wrote:how about the Adams Rite 4300 electrified deadlatch? fits right into the MS prep, but it will require some sort of control system or a prox reader, as well as power wires at the hinge.
The AlarmLock stuff is nice however since it has batteries in the unit.
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