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Re: apps?

Postby demux » 14 Aug 2017 10:20

stratmando wrote:Have had code apps that are nice. Would like to see an app where you could scan a key, and be able to give depths/Code numbers, and/or enter code number and would show profile of key to scale?


The first one looks kind of like a research project someone did a few years ago:

http://vision.ucsd.edu/~blaxton/sneakey.html

It has been mentioned on this forum a few times before. I'm not sure if the code ever did get released though...
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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 16 Aug 2017 16:13

[quote="demux"][quote="stratmando"]Have had code apps that are nice. Would like to see an app where you could scan a key, and be able to give depths/Code numbers, and/or enter code number and would show profile of key to scale?[/quote]

The first one looks kind of like a research project someone did a few years ago:

http://vision.ucsd.edu/~blaxton/sneakey.html

It has been mentioned on this forum a few times before. I'm not sure if the code ever did get released though...[/quote]
[quote="demux"][quote="stratmando"]Have had code apps that are nice. Would like to see an app where you could scan a key, and be able to give depths/Code numbers, and/or enter code number and would show profile of key to scale?[/quote]

The first one looks kind of like a research project someone did a few years ago:

http://vision.ucsd.edu/~blaxton/sneakey.html

It has been mentioned on this forum a few times before. I'm not sure if the code ever did get released though...[/quote]


Yeah, I checked out the link, seems they wanted to see if they could copy a Key from a distance.
What I was Talking about was to allow a locksmith to tell what the cuts were, and maybe go so far as to show the key depth was worn and out of range of the Depth. It was a thought, Depth Gauges do the same thing, Seems you would have to have many of them to cover The many locks. This would reduce the volume of depth gauges?
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Re: apps?

Postby demux » 17 Aug 2017 9:05

stratmando wrote:Yeah, I checked out the link, seems they wanted to see if they could copy a Key from a distance.
What I was Talking about was to allow a locksmith to tell what the cuts were, and maybe go so far as to show the key depth was worn and out of range of the Depth. It was a thought, Depth Gauges do the same thing, Seems you would have to have many of them to cover The many locks. This would reduce the volume of depth gauges?


If it works at distance, it should work up close as well. I've actually done a primitive version of this, where I needed to decode a key and didn't have any gauges or calipers with me at the moment. Took a close-up photo, went home and loaded it into photoshop, then used the measuring tool and basic ratio/proportion math to decode.

Note though that if you're trying to find errors from factory spec, you really need a good caliper or micrometer. No software or key gauge is going to be anywhere near precise enough to tell you that.
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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 18 Aug 2017 12:36

[quote="demux"][quote="stratmando"]Yeah, I checked out the link, seems they wanted to see if they could copy a Key from a distance.
What I was Talking about was to allow a locksmith to tell what the cuts were, and maybe go so far as to show the key depth was worn and out of range of the Depth. It was a thought, Depth Gauges do the same thing, Seems you would have to have many of them to cover The many locks. This would reduce the volume of depth gauges?[/quote]

If it works at distance, it should work up close as well. I've actually done a primitive version of this, where I needed to decode a key and didn't have any gauges or calipers with me at the moment. Took a close-up photo, went home and loaded it into photoshop, then used the measuring tool and basic ratio/proportion math to decode.

Note though that if you're trying to find errors from factory spec, you really need a good caliper or micrometer. No software or key gauge is going to be anywhere near precise enough to tell you that.[/quote]
[quote]I think I could look at a Kwikset key, and look at depth keys and match up by eye? Do you know the accuracy of measurements of a scanned photo(.015", 1/8", any idea? Thanks[/quote]
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Re: apps?

Postby demux » 21 Aug 2017 9:44

stratmando wrote:Do you know the accuracy of measurements of a scanned photo(.015", 1/8", any idea? Thanks


That would depend on the resolution/quality of the photo, which would be a product of the camera used and operator skill. I can snap a pic of a Kwikset key with my phone camera using pretty poor technique and fairly reliably decode it. My success rate is lower with higher quality locks, but it's still possible.

Like I said though, I doubt you could use this technique to get good enough measurements to determine if a key is out from factory spec and what the magnitude of the errors are. At least, not without a high end camera in a controlled environment with mounting apparatus, etc. But if all you're looking to do is decode the key, you can get close enough. For example, if I snap a pic, upload to photoshop, and use the measuring tool, and I measure a depth of .322 on a Kwikset key, I can be reasonably sure that if I cut a coded 1 depth in that position on my new key, it'll probably work.
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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 23 Aug 2017 8:54

I believe My Turbo 2 has like a 21 Megapixel camera, And when I look at the detail of a QR code. Determining code appears easily Done by the Right person, Its not me. Would be a lot of work, but believe it would sell. I think it will happen, for now Its Gauges, Books and Calipers, Depth Keys and Code Machines?
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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 5 Dec 2017 10:32

There are 2 APPs I just found that are pretty much what I was thinking about:



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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 12 Dec 2017 18:58

Not sure why the links were deleted to 2 apps that read the codes from a photo, just want to say it has and is being done, sorry if it looked like I was advertising, or links aren't allowed? Not sure what I did, or I didn't load right.
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Re: apps?

Postby Squelchtone » 12 Dec 2017 23:22

stratmando wrote:Not sure why the links were deleted to 2 apps that read the codes from a photo, just want to say it has and is being done, sorry if it looked like I was advertising, or links aren't allowed? Not sure what I did, or I didn't load right.


Um what device are you viewing the forum from?? No links were deleted, I converted them to be clickable youtube videos.

Do you not see the two video boxes?

Ohhh i know what it is.. you have turned off bbcode in your profile.. youre missing out on half the forum man... im gonna fix your profile..
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Re: apps?

Postby stratmando » 13 Dec 2017 9:29

Hey Thanks Squelchtone, Their had been a lot I couldn't see, Thanks again
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Re: apps?

Postby Darkhigh412 » 2 Jun 2018 20:45

Lock Pick Shop just started it's own app! It's pretty cool
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