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What Did You Impression Today?

A skill known and practiced for years by seasoned locksmiths, impressioning a working key from a blank is a popular new addition in locksport circles everywhere. Get your blanks and Pippin files and get busy!

Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 22 Apr 2016 13:57

teamstarlet wrote:...funny thing is that the key pins appeared to be flat?! Not sure if someone pinned with this the wrong pins or what. Either way I've got a key now


Those knockoff Kwiksets often have flat tipped key pins in them. Defiants, etc.
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby teamstarlet » 22 Apr 2016 14:31

kwoswalt99- wrote:
teamstarlet wrote:...funny thing is that the key pins appeared to be flat?! Not sure if someone pinned with this the wrong pins or what. Either way I've got a key now

Those knockoff Kwiksets often have flat tipped key pins in them. Defiants, etc.

Ha! How about that... Thanks for the info :)
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby jeffmoss26 » 22 Apr 2016 20:18

Real Kwikset pins are flat...
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 22 Apr 2016 20:30

jeffmoss26 wrote:Real Kwikset pins are flat...


So they are. I never noticed.
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby Jacob Morgan » 28 Apr 2016 21:20

Wanted to try fitting a key to a warded lock. Used a candle to soot the key then filed.
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This is the inside of the lock. An elegant design, too bad they offer such little security.
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I remember reading in an old (1968) locksmith course that the student should get a supply of "flat wire" from their locksmith supplier and use that stock to grind and file out picks from templates in the course. I wondered if that flat stock might have been the sort of flat stock used in the lock. Seems like more than a few of those would have crystallized and broke over the years, or got lot when someone took the lock apart, and a locksmith even in the 1960's would have had a supply of that material on hand.
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Took it out and measured it, it came to 0.020", which seems to be a common pick thickness. It looked kind of blue and was obviously a spring, 0.020" spring stock. Interesting on how maybe that is what picks were (and are) often made of, perhaps not because it was ideal for picks but because it was ideal for springs in warded locks and was what was at hand and it worked well enough for picks. Just a theory, but funny how things happen if it is true.
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 29 Apr 2016 0:18

Those springs break all the time, but usually only because of corrosion.
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby femurat » 29 Apr 2016 3:20

Jacob Morgan, what you have there is a lever lock. It has only one lever (and the bolt of course) but it's a lever lock, not a warded lock.

Cheers :)
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby Robotnik » 30 May 2016 18:20

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Knocked a little rust off my impressioning game today with this Almont (5 pin SC1 core).
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby sleepyrz » 4 Jun 2016 1:10

1994 chevy astro van ignition cylinder
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby Robotnik » 5 Jun 2016 15:55

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Impressioned this old (still has "Patent Pending" on the reverse) Master 77 padlock. M1 blank fits; sadly the only Lion keys I have at the moment are cut ones, so no duping onto a period-correct blank for now.
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby GWiens2001 » 5 Jun 2016 16:12

Was requested not to show the lock it goes to, but here is the key I impressioned...

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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby Protec2 » 5 Jun 2016 23:57

Robotnik wrote:Image

Impressioned this old (still has "Patent Pending" on the reverse) Master 77 padlock. M1 blank fits; sadly the only Lion keys I have at the moment are cut ones, so no duping onto a period-correct blank for now.


What's the pinning like? I have loads of cut keys, maybe one could be re-cut?
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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Jun 2016 0:35

Protec2 wrote:
Robotnik wrote:Image

Impressioned this old (still has "Patent Pending" on the reverse) Master 77 padlock. M1 blank fits; sadly the only Lion keys I have at the moment are cut ones, so no duping onto a period-correct blank for now.


What's the pinning like? I have loads of cut keys, maybe one could be re-cut?


That's what I love about our community, people ready to jump in and offer help and parts to fellow members!

I was poking around on ebay and the blanks are very expensive, this one seller wants $10 per lion blank! https://www.ebay.com/itm/172035746275

It's cool to see what you would expect to be a warded or lever padlock based on the body shape to accept a pin tumbler cylinder. Is that 5883 stamping the direct or indirect code for that key bitting?

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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby GWiens2001 » 6 Jun 2016 7:18

That would be an indirect code for the bitting.

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Re: What Did You Impression Today?

Postby jeffmoss26 » 6 Jun 2016 12:28

I will check my box o' precut keys.
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