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Work Experience

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Work Experience

Postby Fah_Cue » 12 Nov 2005 6:30

Hey guys i was wondering for you locksmiths out there, when iam in yr10 (2 more yrs) we have work experience.

I was wondering if someone this age(16) came to you and asked to do work experience with your locksmith shop, what extent would you let them do e.g. keycutting, lock installing or even actually picking at jobs.

Also if i was gonna do this how should i approch the locksmith about it and should i mention i got my own picks and iam able to pick locks or should i keep wuiet about that?

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Postby Chrispy » 12 Nov 2005 6:59

Holy sh*t Fah, you're in Year 8? :shock:

If you manage to land some work experience at a locksmiths, keep very quiet about owning picks. Dazzle them more with your knowledge of locks and how knobsets/leversets work, and what functions certain cams do when on a mortice lock, things like that. The situation might arise where you can show off your picking skills, but don't go looking for things to pick.
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Postby Fah_Cue » 12 Nov 2005 7:01

Chrispy wrote:Holy sh*t Fah, you're in Year 8? :shock:

If you manage to land some work experience at a locksmiths, keep very quiet about owning picks. Dazzle them more with your knowledge of locks and how knobsets/leversets work, and what functions certain cams do when on a mortice lock, things like that. The situation might arise where you can show off your picking skills, but don't go looking for things to pick.


yes, yes iam in yr8 and thanks for the advice
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Postby oldlock » 12 Nov 2005 7:52

Chrispy's advice is good, another thing to do is to download and read the manufacturers catalogues, product knowledge is very important, and the more you know the better a prospect you will be ..........

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Postby helix » 12 Nov 2005 12:42

...As far as how you would approach the locksmith:

I'm pretty sure that the school organises that for you.
You shouldn't need to approach anyone.

As already said, Chrispys advice is what I would go with too.

Two years to learn more about locks etc, put aside at least one
measly little hour per week (12mins/weekday) to learn or understand
better, one new thing each sitting about a lock/tool/method/key/whatever.

This will surely show that you are dedicated and you will know
an awesome amount of info that you won't believe, two years from now.

That is over 100 hours of study, ALL LEARNED.

By that, I mean if you were to study 100 hours STRAIGHT you
would have to incorporate the 'burn out' factor, forgetting, disinterest
after not long, and all the things that make studying horrible for 'crammers'.

You won't learn sh*t that way.

100 hours, ALL of which you have not been trying to learn for more than
12 minutes. I mean, your brain is fresh. What ways do you waste 12 minutes a day already?

Taking the bus to school? Waiting for the bus? Eating lunch?
Taking a bath? Cooking? Watching advertisements on tv?
Sitting on the toilet? Waiting for your mate to get out of class to
walk home together?

Most people accept this 'waiting around' as something that is not
productive, but needs to be done nonetheless.

...So do it!
Just don't do it the way most people do it. Do it productively.

Because most people aren't learning six languages at a time.
Because most people don't have a goal in life.
Because most people stop learning when they don't 'need to'.

NEWSFLASH!!!
Most people fall into the majority of 'MOST' people.

...And most people fail their stupid lives because they know too
much to read anything.

Anyway, I'm going way off topic here, so I'll be quiet now but
close with this:

12 MINUTES:

* at breakfast?
* before bed?
* in a queue?
* in detention at school?

We all spend 12/day somewhere. USE IT.


Maybe I should have started this post with, "I have a dream...."

:P
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Postby skold » 12 Nov 2005 19:58

Chrispy wrote:Holy sh*t Fah, you're in Year 8? :shock:

If you manage to land some work experience at a locksmiths, keep very quiet about owning picks. Dazzle them more with your knowledge of locks and how knobsets/leversets work, and what functions certain cams do when on a mortice lock, things like that. The situation might arise where you can show off your picking skills, but don't go looking for things to pick.


LOL..Tell them of your interests in manipulation of locks, it is better to tell them you can do all this stuff than to tell them " I know how to open a doorknob". Ask them about different locks, there pick resistance, the way they work. As chrispy said, don't go looking for things to pick..show them your skills in one of your own locks and maybe things will lift off from there.
Don't hide your skills, as they need to know you understand all aspects of locksmithing.

You could look at the MLAA test online to get some tips on what you should take a look and try at in the future.
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Postby mcm757207 » 12 Nov 2005 20:04

Is year 10 the Australian equiv. of 10th grade in the US?
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Postby skold » 12 Nov 2005 21:24

Yr 10 is gennerally 15-16 yr olds.
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