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by dylan » 13 Dec 2005 10:09
im in school with heaslip
i was with him when he found the lock
its on our lockers they look hard but our friend can get in with a pair of scissors!!!!!!!!!!1
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by illusion » 13 Dec 2005 12:00
okay...
so could we get a piccy of this lock perhaps?
I'm interested in seeing the pin layout
10 pin tubular with scissors? any other tools?
tubular are not the hardest locks compared to some, but it would be interesting to see...
could you maybe get a vid of the scissor picking, or perhaps a photo ?
thanks
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by raimundo » 13 Dec 2005 12:53
I have seen things in tubular locks that look like pins, but they are not brass, they are in between the regular spacings, and they are obviously steel pins, these do not move, and are some sort of wards to keep out the tubular picks, but they probably are ineffective against the bic pen. has anyone else seen these things, they appear to be of a slightly smaller diameter than the pins, perhaps to fit the spacing between pins.
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by digital_blue » 13 Dec 2005 13:34
Are they fixed or spring biased Ray?
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by zeke79 » 13 Dec 2005 13:46
The locks I have seen like this, those pins are fixed.
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by heaslip » 16 Dec 2005 17:17
unfortunatly i busted the last one so i will try and get a new one and show you a picture
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by Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 19:53
raimundo wrote:I have seen things in tubular locks that look like pins, but they are not brass, they are in between the regular spacings, and they are obviously steel pins, these do not move, and are some sort of wards to keep out the tubular picks, but they probably are ineffective against the bic pen. has anyone else seen these things, they appear to be of a slightly smaller diameter than the pins, perhaps to fit the spacing between pins.
Oh dear, are they allways in the same position? or random?
A varible tubular pick is going to cause some brain hurt.
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by Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 19:54
Varible pin spaced varible tubular pick
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by Omikron » 16 Dec 2005 22:57
Shrub wrote:Varible pin spaced varible tubular pick
 Do they make those!? Pics!
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by vector40 » 17 Dec 2005 4:47
Peterson pick or anything that doesn't need to press into the lock aside from the actual pinholes (er... pin chambers) probably wouldn't care.
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by Shrub » 17 Dec 2005 9:49
Omikron wrote:Shrub wrote:Varible pin spaced varible tubular pick  Do they make those!? Pics!
Im going to have to if these are coming out.
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by Omikron » 17 Dec 2005 14:50
Shrub wrote:Omikron wrote:Shrub wrote:Varible pin spaced varible tubular pick  Do they make those!? Pics!
Im going to have to if these are coming out.
Is there a company that actually has these in production? If so, which one?
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by Nasydave » 18 Dec 2005 20:22
If you would like an idea on how to do variable spacing on a tubular, how about this? (I'm trying it, but am a lazy type, so who knows how long it will take me)
I have a 5" long piece of 3/8" brass tubing that fits the center post in a tubular. ($1.38 at a hobby store for 12 inches)
Inside of this, I put a wooden dowel ($.39). In the end of the dowel, I cut a notch on one side, and put in a 1" piece of music wire (.032?) that fits into the notch on a tubular lock.
Now comes the part I haven't tried. On the brass tubing at hobby stores, the sizes all telescope (will fit tightly on the next smaller size - like a radio antenna).
So, we take (for example) 2" of the next larger size brass tubing. We place this on the 3/8 tubing, about 2 inches up the tube. Around the edge of this, we place 32 pieces of music wire, so that there is a "ring" of music wire. Around the music wire and larger tube, we wind one large rubber band, and put a hose clamp on the outside of the rubber band.
Where the music wire leaves the edge of the larger tubing and hits the 3/8" tubing, we place an o-ring (not TOO tight).
When we place the pick against the lock, we simple apply tension with the dowel-3/8 tubing, and then move the larger tubing (with wire pokers) forward into the lock a few times. The hose clamp may need to be adjusted like the tension ring on a purchased tool.
If I'm thinking right, this pick should do 7's, 8's, offsets, 10's, or anything.
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by Shrub » 18 Dec 2005 20:32
Ive got a simpler way but i havent the time or inclination to write about it now, its 1.30 am and im just out on a call out now, ill do it later.
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