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by unbreakable » 27 Dec 2005 21:06
I have this masterlock, and, for safteys sake, I wondered how secure it is. There's been a rash of thefts in our neibourhood, and one of my neibours had his lock cut off with boltcutters, and his snowblower stolen  . I also use this lock at school, and I know its pretty secure against brute force methods, (unless you happen to have a popcan handy!!  ).
My question is how vulnerable is this lock to the average pair of bolt cutters  On the shackle it says hardened (not that this usually means anything). The lock is a master lock 1525, with key entry on the back.
Any helps appreciated!
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by stlbolt » 27 Dec 2005 21:08
Depends on the kind of bolt cutters, my dad's office sells some that could cut through it with ease, but for someone trying to get in and out quickly I highly doubt it would'nt perform the way it should...
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by vector40 » 27 Dec 2005 21:13
These are about as secure as a zip tie. The ways to compromise them are as numerous and varied as boogers.
Don't use them for any real security. They're essentially privacy locks.
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by zeke79 » 27 Dec 2005 21:14
I would say that lock has minimal resistance to bolt cutters. If you are looking for something with cutting resistance, look for at least a boron alloy shackle such as the Master Pro Series and one better go for a shrouded shackle. Now the next question is how secure is your hasp and what it's attached to?
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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by unbreakable » 27 Dec 2005 22:09
Thanks you guys for your quick responses.
It looks like I'll be needing to buy a new lock Very soon
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by unbreakable » 27 Dec 2005 22:14
Oh, by the way, if any moderators want to move this to the "Got Questions" forum please do so. I have no idea what I was thinking when I posted it here. It was getting kinda late. 
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by webidiot2 » 28 Dec 2005 1:27
I don't know what this lock is on, but if it is worth a lot to you you should get a high security lock like abloy, or medeco. You can find them on ebay all the time and they are almost indestructible. Here is a great link on the differences between a cheapo padlock and an expensive one. http://beta.thenationallocksmith.com/public.asp?3 Another thing is you can have a great padlock on something but what it is securing is not that strong, and would recommend to make sure whatever it is locking together is tough too.
Hopefully that helps
Seek and ye shall find.
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by digital_blue » 28 Dec 2005 1:28
Zeke, when you say "minimal resistance to bolt cutters" is that anything like my how my butter has minimal resistance to a knife? 
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by webidiot2 » 28 Dec 2005 1:31
or scissors to paper?
Seek and ye shall find.
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by skold » 28 Dec 2005 3:20
webidiot2 wrote:I don't know what this lock is on, but if it is worth a lot to you you should get a high security lock like abloy, or medeco. You can find them on ebay all the time and they are almost indestructible. Here is a great link on the differences between a cheapo padlock and an expensive one. http://beta.thenationallocksmith.com/public.asp?3 Another thing is you can have a great padlock on something but what it is securing is not that strong, and would recommend to make sure whatever it is locking together is tough too. Hopefully that helps
With every padlock there is has a weakness.
Rekeyable padlocks such as abloy can be opened in a destructive manner in about 30 seconds - 2 minutes.
But it is unlikely that a thief would know the methods unless they had studied destructive padlock entry methods.
Also, when purchasing a padlock you must also make sure that the hasp/staple is up to scratch with the lock. If it isn't, the lock could be easily snapped off.
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by skold » 28 Dec 2005 3:21
webidiot2 wrote: Another thing is you can have a great padlock on something but what it is securing is not that strong, and would recommend to make sure whatever it is locking together is tough too.
oops, didn't see that 
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by vector40 » 28 Dec 2005 3:35
Plus then they get a nice padlock, too 
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by unbreakable » 29 Dec 2005 13:23
Wow webidiot2.
Thats a great article, informative AND highly entertaining  !!
Thanks
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