Chubb Floor Safe Mode - ON Guard -- Lost Combination

[ve3sjk]

Yes i did say in the orginal post that the combination is lost, the local locksmith is saying the hourly rate for manual whatever. As far as the math goes, i would like to understand the math portion. I am not looking to just learn things for a one time safe, i usually dive into learning new things and then seeing how i can take my expierence in another field and apply it to a new one. The lock spinner seems viable, but i am not looking to be a criminal or help someone else be one either. Chubb canada sold the business to another company so i will continue my search with the new company. I would still like to understand the math and mechanics of these and other types of locks.

[Shrub]

Yes i did say in the orginal post that the combination is lost

Ok, it was this part of your post that muddled me up

I know the combinations are 100*100*100

[Shrub]

Disscussing safes and opening techniques including the maths on how to work the combos out is for the advanced sections, sorry.

[TOWCH]

The locksmith you went to is either not capable of doing the job, or you misunderstood him.

There are three ways to do this job: Use an autodialer to dial all the combinations for you, manipulate it, or drill it. No safe tech in his right mind would manually run through all the of the combinations(even though with dialing tolerances and the forbiden zone taken into account, there are much less than 1,000,000 possible combinations.)

The only reason being an EE would make you any different from any other customer is if you made your own autodialer. If you want to do this yourself, do that google search someone else posted and read the "safelocks.pdf" paper that will come up. A google search for "safelocks.pdf" will also work.

[hzatorsk]

...I figured why pay someone else to do what I can do. ...

Why? Because nobody here is going to teach you how to open or drill the safe.

[TOWCH]

I know about the other forums but I can buy a new safe in less than the month required to get to those. Just want to see if i could save it from the garbage pile.

If you can't get it open and are going to throw it away let me know. I'll buy it off you if the price is right.

[maxxed]

In Canada all the former Chubb techs I know work for Gunnebo, in case you didn't know.
To make a safe dialer a person still requires a solid understanding of tolerances and sequences of a combination. Opening the safe involves beating the combination not the safe.
You did not mention where in Canada you are , there may be a memeber near that will help.