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The last pin

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The last pin

Postby RAVEN663 » 27 Apr 2006 19:44

Hello everyone, I have recently started lockpicking and I am curious about the last pin in a 4 pin tumbler. I have gotten the first 3 pins to correctly fall in place but the fourth (the one farthest back) does not have enough pressure to keep it down. I have reason to believe that the device i am using to put pressure on the pins does not put pressure on the last pin. does anyone know a better system to get the last pin to have pressure put on it? If you can let me know that would be great :)
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Postby Shrub » 27 Apr 2006 19:52

What pick are you useing?
Are you 100% sure you have CORRECTLY set the first 3 pins?
What lock is it you are picking?
What are you useing for tensioning and how much tension are you putting on?

If it s a home made pick try and show a picture of it with the lock so we can better advise you.
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Postby RAVEN663 » 27 Apr 2006 20:13

I am using a home made pick, its just a long straight pick.

I am 100% sure that i have the pins correctly set.

I am not sure what the type of lock is, it is a "normal" door lock on my kitchen door that i am practicing on.

I am using another homemade piece of metal to put tenshion on the lock. It is basically in the shape of an "L" and i use the short leg of the L in the lock and pull on the long leg to create tenshion.
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Postby Shrub » 27 Apr 2006 20:24

I take it your US based?
Does the key or lock faces say anything on the them?

It should actually be a 5 pin lock in which case you may find a farther back pin needs setting before the one you cant set, they dont set in order (or at least rarely do)

If your useing a straight pick you will get better luck if you make a hook pick or a dimound pick, a straight pick doesnt really have any merit in the scheme of things as reard cylinder locks i think thats why your struggleing.
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Postby illusion » 27 Apr 2006 20:26

Hmm... tensioning on either the top or the bottom of the keyway will make all the pins bind - I reckon your pick might be letting you down, as Shrub said.
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Postby RAVEN663 » 27 Apr 2006 20:30

Yes, i am Us based.

The locks have nothing on them.

Ok, ill try the hook at the end and see how that works out. Ive never really had to use a hooked peice befoore, i hope it all works out right. Thank you for your help. :D
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Postby Varjeal » 28 Apr 2006 10:11

It's quite likely that your lock actually has FIVE pins and that your oversetting one or more of the first three.
*insert witty comment here*
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Postby Mr. Lock Pick » 29 Apr 2006 14:07

try picking in different orders, from front to back, or back to front or middle to back then front.. might help
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Postby tweed » 1 May 2006 1:30

not sure if it would help in this case, but try applying tension in the opposite direction.
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