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electronic Cyberlock cylinder for medeco padlock/unpickable

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electronic Cyberlock cylinder for medeco padlock/unpickable

Postby beaowolf » 8 Mar 2004 0:41

Cyberlock claims this is unpickable, which has to be true since their is nothing to pick, it is an electronic lock where the key has the battery and user i.d. # stored in it. Also, the lock stores access info., i.e. who opened the lock and when.

Anyone disagree? I need a pick-proof lock. They will not use forced entry.
Thanks
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Postby marso » 8 Mar 2004 3:55

Security requires you to assess threats and put in place the proper measures. Since we do not know the threat we can not recommend the measures. Basically even though cyberlock does not have the vunerability that we call "picking" it then opens itself up to other vunerabilities. I do not think this is the appropriate place to discuss these, if you are looking at spending this amount of money I suggest you talk to a professional and look at the locks. Even the more advanced picker on this forum will not get through a medeco, bilock, abloy pro. I do not see anything that is worth locking that these locks would not protect against. If it is that important, start looking at alarms, cctv, and armed guards.

http://www.videx.com/ac_html/cyberlock.shtml
Consider me inactive or lurker.
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Postby Chucklz » 8 Mar 2004 8:39

Because a lock cannot be picked with traditional equipment, doesn't mean that 1.) It cannot be bypassed and 2.) there isnt a better way in.
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cyberlocks openable nondestructively?/D.C. pickers

Postby beaowolf » 8 Mar 2004 9:01

I needed to get my work done, and someone is opening my fridge and messing with my reagents at work with the bosses consent (politics). The mul-t-lock was picked as far as I can tell, since the only other key (than one with me at all times) AND key code card are in a safe deposit box. When you say the more advanced pickers on this forum can not pick medeco etc. locks, well how about the most advanced pickers in the greater D.C. area?

Is their a way to nondestructively open a cyberlock? Do not need to tell me how, just if this is possible. Also, I was told Videx has something new for padlocks, and the dealer will be getting back to me later today.
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Postby technik » 8 Mar 2004 10:06

ok beaowolf, lets try and end this here:

1. Contact the company that make these locks, and ask them your questions, as they are the best people to answer them.

2. Dont post duplicate posts, as it gets readers angry (like i am now), and then they wont answer your questions.

3. This question is going to go on and on i can see. Every lock can be picked, it is just how easily it can be. If it is close to impossible to pick, it can be bashed, cut or bypassed in some way or another. There is no such thing as an open proof (with out the key) lock. and if the DC pickers are so good, then its a good idea to take what ever is in the fridge, and take it took a safe deposit box, or some where else where there is someone watching it, and is hard to access. (if they want this so bad and can get through a medeco to get it, and you put a miracolously 'unpickable' lock on the fridge that you desire so much, they'll probably cut the fridge in half with an angle grinder to get at it.)

Really, i dont think you are going to get a better answer out of us, no matter how many times you post the question.

I know im being very forward, but really, this question is going nowhere, and cant be answered to your satisfaction unless you talk to the lock company you had in mind.

I'm sorry if i am being annoying, but some one has to say this.

(If someone dissagrees with this post, please feel free to say so.)

well, thats my grump for the day. :evil:
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Postby Chucklz » 8 Mar 2004 10:54

First off, I know how it is to have someone messing with your reagents. Someone is always moving my Monoclonal Ab's but thats a different topic. In the Washington DC area..... well there are organizations there that have the knowledge to open any lock non destructively. Sorry about that.

Try some security seals, they are basically stickers etc, just so you can tell that a particular reagent has been compromised. A sign saying that you will pour Ethidium Bromide on whoever you catch touching your reagents probably wouldnt hurt either.
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