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Biometrics for the masses?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Biometrics for the masses?

Postby lockedin » 23 Jul 2006 23:47

I just saw this affordable "fingerprint" lock on ebay. It looks interesting. I was wondering what you guys thought about it.

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Sweet new fingerprint lock

Postby jeremy » 24 Jul 2006 2:40

Well, it's pretty!
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It is exciting that biometric access control is becoming more affordable in recent years.
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Mechanical vulnerability of fancy electronic lock

Postby jeremy » 24 Jul 2006 3:28

Key operation is in case of an electrical failure. It is a common option in electronic locks. I suppose you're thinking of it is a vulnerability. Some lock cylinders are far more secure than others, and there are several interchangeable solutions available for many commercial grade locks. As for this lock, is the keyhole that little bitty hole that looks like it belongs on a 35-cent padlock?
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Postby DeadlyHunter » 24 Jul 2006 3:35

IMHO one of the worst aspects of biometrics is the fact that

A.) you cannot change your fingerprint if someone 'gets' it; a key you could change, but not a fingerprint.

B.) someone that wants your fingerprint can get it, you leave this 'key' everywhere; doors, cups, books etc etc.
Support your local locksmith -lose your keys
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afis

Postby raimundo » 24 Jul 2006 8:56

afis, not the little bugs that kill leaf, but the automated fingerprint ident sys. will match a finger print with ten or twentyfive possible matches, then the human eye takes over, and a print examiner tries to make a positive match, the meaning of this is you should get your cop friend to run your print on afis and see who else is wearing your code. The fingerprint lock will work, and it will also baffle the gullible into thinking that you have execllent security, but things like this have their vulnerablities, like for instance if someone were able to gain control on premises or by internet of the data, they could put thier own fingerprint inthere and not tell the owner of the lock who trusts and spends very little time verifying, this could leave someone with access that could be used long term, and if anything happened, that person may also be able to scramble all data the lock depends on. Remember, it was Diebold, a good name in locks, who came up with the 'automatic vote theft machine" and there are so many insecurities in that scam. obviouly, they were anxious to get a product marketed, before having a trustable product.
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