Electronic locks

by **goodhumorman** » 23 Jul 2006 23:50

Hi everyone, i'm new to this site, but found all the info very helpfull. I've been picking like crazy for the past 3 days!

My question:

I have a client that has an automatic lock on the front door of the house, need a 5 number pin code to open, it has a fairly large battery, on the inside, that gives power. How often should this be replaced to maintaine correct operation, and what happens if the battery goes dead?

I haven't read the manual for it, just hoping someone would know?

by **lockedin** » 24 Jul 2006 0:06

Those batteries last a long time-- months to a year. Assuming that it does go dead, is there no way to manually override it with a key? I'm assuming you're talking about something likes this:

http://www.kwikset.com/Products/default ... fault.aspx

This actually alerts you when the battery is low.

by **goodhumorman** » 24 Jul 2006 0:09

no i think its a schlage lever lock, has no key

by **SFGOON** » 24 Jul 2006 0:18

So you have a client, whose house you have access to, and you want to know what would happen if you removed the battery from his electronic lock?

Client - what do you mean there? Since you've only been picking locks for a few days and can't identify the lock in question, may I assume you're not a lock smith?

Why do you want to know what happens in the event of a power failure?

Hoping that maybe the lock will just pop open?

I'm a little suspicious. What do you have to say for yourself?

by **goodhumorman** » 24 Jul 2006 0:27

no im not a locksmith and would never pick a lock for ill intent, i'm trying to learn a new skill to help save cost and time in sub-divisions. All homeowners wont one key to work all locks, but when 30 people use the key to do there job they get lost. Unless u duck tape them to a saw all blade.

my question was simply an un-educated one, ive never worked with this type of lock before

by **goodhumorman** » 24 Jul 2006 0:34

now i will anser your questions in order

I the event of a power failer the back up generaters turn on
The security system still works

by **SFGOON** » 24 Jul 2006 1:26

Fair enough, the wording of your question worried me.

As far as the lock in question goes, I personally don't know. We restrict most discussion of eletronic and/or combination safes to the advanced forums due to a high potential for abuse.

Some concepts for you to look into are "fail safe" and "fail secure" - does the lock unlock or stay locked in the event of a power failure?
this may get you started in the right direction.

Also, I'm almost postive the lock you're looking at isn't a lever lock. You generally only see those on safe deposit boxes in the US. Check out the European locks and hardware forum for more information.

by **UWSDWF** » 24 Jul 2006 7:49

If this handle is wired into a security/ fire system it will most likely unlock during a fire alarm

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 24 Jul 2006 20:10

hmmm

Probably talking about a trilogy even though it has more than 7 #

anything schlage makes you can see the individual batteries and would not likely be referred to as a "large Battery"

either which way both families of these give you ample notice of dying batteries

these are fail secure, i can't think of one that has the option to be fail safe since most are bat powerred ou tof the box anyway

fail safe would smoke batteries in a matter of hours

But since these locks are several hundred apiece prolly has neither of them installed on the front door of their ohuse.

by **goodhumorman** » 24 Jul 2006 21:23

I actually checked it out today, it does have a key cylinder, but i still wonder how long the batter will last.

In the 2 years I have worked on this property i have yet to use a key.

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