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Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Postby jordyh » 3 Nov 2006 3:35

Actually, i've taken the liberty to write a little article on Lock picking a while ago.
It protrays Lock picking as a skill and a hobby.
Unfortunately for you lot, it's in the Dutch part of Wikipedia.

Yours,

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Postby jordyh » 3 Nov 2006 3:35

Darn it...

protrays >> portrays
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Postby Identity » 4 Nov 2006 10:46

Some of the editors and admins seem to be just flat out ridiculous. I see alot of "NOTE: This person has made few or no other edits outside of this topic" or "NOTE:This is 'fillinanamehere's first edit on Wikipedia".

Who freaking cares!? What, because you don't mess around with Wiki or don't edit on Wiki you can't have your own freaking opinion on something? Why must everyone be informed that it's your "first post" So?

You could be a Master Chef and be 70 years old and cooked all your life and you go to another restaurant and they have to make sure they announce "Hold on guys, note: this is the first time this man has EVER cooked here" Like somehow because you don't nerd it up(No offense I'm a geek myself) on Wiki that you are some lame moron that is not good enough for their standards. This doesn't voliate any of their policies or rules or guidelines so I vote it stays, some people are just ...wow, that's the only word I can use without going to far ^_^ "Wow"
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Postby melvin2001 » 4 Nov 2006 13:31

actually there is a policy against meatpuppets and sockpuppets.

One exception to the principle of assume good faith concerns the use of sockpuppets. This tactic is commonly employed by vandals and bad-faith contributors who create multiple user accounts in an attempt to bias the decision process. A close variation is to enlist "meatpuppets", people from outside Wikipedia to "run in" (for example, if my article about a web forum is up for deletion and I post a call for other forum members to "help keep our website in Wikipedia"). Signs of these tactics are that a contributor's account was created after discussion began, that a contributor has few edits or that a contributor's other edits have been vandalism. Other Wikipedians will draw attention to such facts and may even recommend deletion simply because apparent sock- or meat-puppets piled in with "do not delete" or other similar comments.

Unfortunately, (vandalism aside) such cases are notoriously hard to distinguish from good-faith contributors writing their first article or from anonymous users who finally decide to log in. If someone does point out your light contribution history, please take it in the spirit it was intended - a fact to be weighed by the closing admin, not an attack on the person.


so yeah.... they are technicly just trying to protect against idiots. which is the lesser of two evils, possibly alienating a user that truly knows what they are doing, or being inundated by idiots.

personally i think it is a temporary issue because anyone that truly knows and loves a subject will stick around gain a nice little post count and thereby gain credibility, where sockpuppets and meatpuppets will disappear. Think of this as the wiki equivalent of those jerks that come around ask how to bump a lock and then are gone like a fart in the wind.
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Postby digital_blue » 5 Nov 2006 15:27

Well, looks like they pulled it. Shame.

Alright. That was a waste of time.

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