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This is a toughie...

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

This is a toughie...

Postby polarmike » 12 Nov 2006 1:46

Alright, I am a beginner and I have picked a few locks soo far. I got the hang of single picking as well as raking. But there is this lock that is too hard... I dont know why. Its a Brinks Z11 Pin tumbler with stainless steel springs. Its kinda annoying. I can pick a masterlock No3 in less then 5 seconds but this brinks is killing me. Any advice?
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Postby UWSDWF » 12 Nov 2006 7:37

did you just compare a master no3 to a brinks :lol:

yeah search "spool pins" or "security pins" that si most likely your problem
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Postby polarmike » 12 Nov 2006 17:55

UWSDWF wrote:did you just compare a master no3 to a brinks :lol:

yeah search "spool pins" or "security pins" that si most likely your problem


probly, but could somone give me a link on this site in which is the ezest way to pick em?
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Postby zeke79 » 12 Nov 2006 18:11

Do as UWSDWF suggested and search for spool pins, security pins, mushroom pins, etc. You will find enough info to answer your question.
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Postby melvin2001 » 12 Nov 2006 19:13

the "ezest" way to pick them is to use a pick and a tension wrench...

seriously the only way to make picking "ez" is to practice. if you come across security pins then you have to practice even more. there are at least 100 threads on the site that talk about spools.

because i'm in a good mood tonight i will give you the basics. you start off by picking the lock like normal (lifting each biding pin to the sheer line) then when you lift a pin and the plug spins about 10 degrees (very slightly but enough that you will feel it) you know that your spools have false set. check out this page for a nice graphic on why you feel the plug spin

http://deviating.net/lockpicking/02.05- ... nding.html

also AS you press up on the pin you should feel the plug try and rotate back the opposite direction in order to allow the end of the spool pin to pass above the sheer line. since the indent of spool pins are generally close to the end, once you get the spools to false set you know you are almost there. just be VERY careful with your tension and pick the spools the rest of the way and you will have it open before you know it.

now do a search on spool pins and don't ask people to "post a link" to information that you could easily find if you just did a search for yourself. its rude.
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