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How to take a yale 5 tubuler apart

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Postby quicklocks » 21 Apr 2004 8:38

daniel this is how to take a yale pin tumbler apart without using a key.
1 get a set of feeler gauges (for setting spark plugs).
2 take the clip off the back of the lock.
3 push a thin feeler gauge in to the back of the lockat the top of the plug until you reach the first stack of pins.
4 use a pick to lift that set slowly while applying a little pressure to the feeler.
5 when the feeler gives a little and slips into the lock alittle that stack of pins is set.
6 repeat until they are all set.
the idea is you are pushing the feeler gauge between the driver and bottom pin (shiming it).
when you get to stacks 2&4 the gauge will slipin an stop after a small amount. this is a way of telling they are spool pins so you must pull the Feeler back a little and lift the stack alittle more until the feeler slips again. its a little fiddly but this works i use it a lot. :D
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Postby technik » 21 Apr 2004 8:53

you may need to trim down the sides of the shim to fit it into the lock, as most shim stocks are pretty wide.
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Postby Daniel » 22 Apr 2004 15:26

Today i walked past a burnt out car lifted the bonnet and got the metal from the wipers, i bent it and its perfect it really works well, then i grinded a pick. I went to my dads and he gave me

5 pin tumbler yale
5 pin tumbler bird
6 pin union
5 pin union

Draper padlock

and a tiny padlock.

It took the bird apart :D but i cannot even get one pin in to practise :(

To top it all my mrs picks up the wrench whacks it in the small padlock and seconds later it opens :cry:

Im crap
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Postby Daniel » 22 Apr 2004 19:04

Haaaaaa theres a knack to putting the pins back, its easy. I can pick 4 now just. nearly there :D
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Postby toomush2drink » 23 Apr 2004 6:07

good stuff daniel keep it up ,get the hang of the bird until you can open it at will then move onto one of the others and save the yale to last.Rememmber its all about practice and dont get too disheartened if when you move up from the bird you dont get quick results.Birds are easy but you dont realise how much until you master harder locks. :D
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Postby Daniel » 23 Apr 2004 12:31

bird is easy!!!!!! :(
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Postby Chucklz » 23 Apr 2004 12:35

Daniel, if you are still having trouble take heart. It takes a while to learn tension. You are almost definately using a bit too much. Unfortunately its not an easy thing to describe how much tension to use. Keep working until you get fustrated.....then step back for a while and do something else. THen come back to your lock.
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Postby Daniel » 23 Apr 2004 14:24

i find that i need to release tension the more pins i pick, i can pick the 4 pins once a minute now, gonna pu the last pin in, wish me luck :?
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Postby Daniel » 23 Apr 2004 18:25

did it :D done it three times within about a minute :D :D :D It felt bloody good lol. How do i do the union ones, (ill get a picture)
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Postby Daniel » 23 Apr 2004 18:29

this one?

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Postby Daniel » 24 Apr 2004 16:17

is it the same principle?
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Postby technik » 24 Apr 2004 20:38

yep, whack it in a vise to hold it still, gives a feeling of opening a door etc.

I suggest you go down to your hardware store and by a knob-deadlock set, if you cant afford both,m just get a knob. Mount this on a piece of wood (search around this site, there is heaps of pictures of lock mounts) and then pick it.

Id do this soon, as just picking locks with no spring or attachment at the end is very different to knobs etc. Best to do this in the learning process, wish I had. Need any help with mounting/buying, pm me

best of luck

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Postby Daniel » 25 Apr 2004 10:31

so they pick the same way? they are difficult to turn and little feedback through the pick.
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