funny looking master keys

by **zeke79** » 23 Dec 2006 3:42

maxxed wrote:The top two keys look like the top shoulder has been cut / filed back and are multi generation cuts ( copies of copies copies ect.) the tip of the center key looks like it has been cut off.
I generally have master keys with one of the highest and one of the lowest cuts on the, but I see nothing wrong with the patterns used
When it comes to picking. master keyed locks have multiple shear lines per cylinder and that also makes it much easier to pick. Also a flat key pattern may exsist in the form of a ghost key in the lock.

Thanks Maxxed. They could be better, but are not the worst either.

by **Legion303** » 23 Dec 2006 4:04

Raccoon wrote:They also know that I don't lock my doors.

I do NOW. :)

-steve

by **I Pik U** » 24 Dec 2006 0:15

As years go by, and diferent Locksmiths are used in a complex, without bitting lists being shared, compromises can develope in a system. The first two master keys are similar, and not well thought out.

I've keyed a 30 floor building from brand new, twice as someone lost some keys. Ten years later I'm finding similar situations, as other Locksmiths have been called in by some tenants. One case is a Sub-Master key that was cut to all 2s, 222222 WTF! Another where a sub-master was made where only one cut is different from the GMK. I saw this key, and relized afterwards when looking at the bitting lists that this second sub-master can possably fit another tenants area. I did inform the tenant that I think is compromised of the situation.

The point being, if your hired to do some keying work in a large system, if the bitting list is not available, you cannot guarantee cross keying.

by **jgencinc** » 24 Dec 2006 0:58

Regarding the security of posting master keys here.
Long before I posted pictures here, i realized the possibilty of compromising the apartment complex by showing the keys. I would never be irresponsible enough to mention the name, address, or even the city those keys came from.

by **maxxed** » 24 Dec 2006 2:32

zeke79 wrote:
maxxed wrote:The top two keys look like the top shoulder has been cut / filed back and are multi generation cuts ( copies of copies copies ect.) the tip of the center key looks like it has been cut off.
I generally have master keys with one of the highest and one of the lowest cuts on the, but I see nothing wrong with the patterns used
When it comes to picking. master keyed locks have multiple shear lines per cylinder and that also makes it much easier to pick. Also a flat key pattern may exsist in the form of a ghost key in the lock.

Thanks Maxxed. They could be better, but are not the worst either.

Agreed

by **David Swearingen** » 24 Dec 2006 15:29

Raccon and xequar are both exactly right! What puzzles me is, how do you get 6 spaces on a Titan key without having the first space up against the shoulder? These keys won't work without pulling them part way out of the locks!

by **Raccoon** » 24 Dec 2006 15:40

jgencinc wrote:Regarding the security of posting master keys here.
Long before I posted pictures here, i realized the possibilty of compromising the apartment complex by showing the keys. I would never be irresponsible enough to mention the name, address, or even the city those keys came from.

Somewhere in Philadelphia perhaps?

by **jgencinc** » 24 Dec 2006 22:57

I hope your day job is not Private investigator.
I said I would not disclose the city these keys came from. Answering your question would either confirm, or rule out the city I am from.

by **xequar** » 25 Dec 2006 0:41

jgencinc wrote:I hope your day job is not Private investigator.
I said I would not disclose the city these keys came from. Answering your question would either confirm, or rule out the city I am from.

Uuum, er, um, the location you have filled in is Philidelphia, and it's right below your screen name where everyone can see it... Sure, there's a lot more to this than that, but...

by **Raccoon** » 25 Dec 2006 2:09

I knew this guy on the forum who didn't think anyone could find out his first name. That lasted all of 2 hours.

by **What** » 25 Dec 2006 3:39

Raccoon wrote:I knew this guy on the forum who didn't think anyone could find out his first name. That lasted all of 2 hours.

hmm, paying homage with his sig too.

by **maxxed** » 25 Dec 2006 15:30

David Swearingen wrote:Raccon and xequar are both exactly right! What puzzles me is, how do you get 6 spaces on a Titan key without having the first space up against the shoulder? These keys won't work without pulling them part way out of the locks!

The top shoulder has been cut or filed back on that key, I think that a Titan keyblank has been used to work on 6 pin Weiser spacing.

by **Brl1214** » 2 Jan 2007 19:46

those are so esey to pick just use a straght wire.

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