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Need Help Making My Doorlocks More Secure

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Father Time » 2 Dec 2006 22:06

You have to understand criminal psychology in order to fight against it. Changing your locks will only go so far. The invitation is still there.

I'd hang a copy of my NRA handgun certification on every window and door.

You'll sleep alot better than changing your locks. :)




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Postby Schuyler » 3 Dec 2006 0:28

Father Time wrote:You have to understand criminal psychology in order to fight against it.


I don't think she's looking to fight against it, just have more secure, unbumpable locks on her doors. :P
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Postby supersteph » 3 Dec 2006 0:45

Father Time wrote:You have to understand criminal psychology in order to fight against it. Changing your locks will only go so far. The invitation is still there.

I'd hang a copy of my NRA handgun certification on every window and door.

You'll sleep alot better than changing your locks. :)




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More Secure?

Postby grim » 3 Dec 2006 1:51

nervous nellie wrote:The price for Medeco replacement door locks is way out of my budget.


what is easier to purchase; a $100 lock or replacements of all your valuable possessions? you should try to keep things in perspective.

besides, if the punks don't have a key that fits your keyway, then how can your lock be bumped? get some weird, martian keyway and they'll have a much smaller likelihood of having a bump-key that'll fit into it.
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Postby Father Time » 3 Dec 2006 3:01

With today's portable power tools, even a punk kid can clean you out, no picking skills needed.

If you don't address the root of the problem, which is how people think, all the hardware upgrades will be for nothing.

Thieves aren't going to change how they see your home unless the deterrent is strong enough to make them go elsewhere. A good dog. An quality alarm system, or my original suggestion.

Any hint that a homeowner is also a gun owner is enough to make most thieves to go a little further down the road. Even a good bluff in this area can be effective. Put an NRA member sticker around windows.

You can also buy dummy cameras, complete with red light.

You get the idea.


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Postby lunchb0x » 3 Dec 2006 3:13

^^^^^^^^^^^^
i agree, their is no point having the best lock on the door if someone is oing to smash the window to get in, visual deterants like father time said are good deterants, or get a little yappy dog, they are really good alarms
something is only as strong as its weakest part
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Postby Schuyler » 3 Dec 2006 14:55

I still think that kids are going to bump locks as much out of boredom as anything else.

Also, everyone goes on and on about how thieves don't pick locks, blah blah. Well, I don't buy it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Given the opportunity to enter ANYWHERE without being detected, a very active minority of the population will take the chance. Bump keys just give them much more of an opportunity.
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Postby Squelchtone » 11 Dec 2006 1:45

2octops wrote:
#2 - I sell Schlage Primus also and have not heard of anyone bumping it yet. It is a high security cylinder. Someone pointed out the cylinders are around $70 each, but they are not keyed up, so be expecting a pinning charge or rekeying charge. The keys are also a bit more than normal. We charge $12 each for them.


2octops,

I was working on a Schlage /_\ Everest, which has that milling for the check pin on the keyblank, and my boss claims that Everest has now become Primus, but I can't confirm this. Are they in fact the same animal? The Everest I was working on had 6 pins.

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Schlage Primus & Everest

Postby aiea » 7 Jan 2007 22:28

[quote="squelchtone"]... my boss claims that Everest has now become Primus, but I can't confirm this. Are they in fact the same animal? The Everest I was working on had 6 pins.
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Primus (with sidebar finger keying) is the newer line. Primus keys will operate in the Everest cylinder but not the other way around, but I bet you already knew that by now.
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