Duplicator makes Bump Keys?

[xnoobandrew]

I'm pretty sure at your local (USA) Osh, Walmart, or Lowes has key duplicators right?. So cant u make bump keys there?

I have not yet tried this but I plan to go to walmart Wednesday.

I wanna know before I make a trip..

[zeke79]

No, you cannot create a bumpkey from a blank using a duplicator. You will need to have a code cut bumpkey first, then that key can be duplicated.

[jimmysmith]

do you mean take a bump key to them to duplicate? or have them wip you up a bump key. ?

I took a hole set of bump keys into bi-mart once a while back and they copyed every one no questions asked.

if you are meaning those axxcess+ machines....i to have wondered about. I believe they cant make a bump key...{i think} I think they only copy. if you where to stick in a blank to be coppied and nothing in the key you want coppied hole......i think it would shave the blank down smooth,,,,there would be no angle cuts...just a stright smooth bow, the hole blade cut to the deepest depth....but /\_/\_/\_/\ to bump anything with... the new key would slide in right under all the pins...I think....

does anyone know doffrent... {I hate those axxess+ machines}

[xnoobandrew]

axess+ are the cheapest generic key blanks around in my town..

Oh, so you can't.. better start with the filing then.

But you already know the code 999 or the largest number available.

[jimmysmith]

those access+ machines are only dub machines, not code cutters, and even if you did get it all the way down to the lowest cut and still had the peaks and vallys on the blade......you really want your bump key to be cut 1/2 or a full cut under the deepest cut, this is beacuse what if one of the pins in the lock are set to the deepest depth. when you put in your lowest depth cut key [bump key] you will have already set the pin, then when you bump it...that pin will bounce to high...going past the sheer line.

one way to cut your key would be to use a cut sized shim under the key while in the duplicator machine....

therefore your bump key should not be a 999 key but more like a 10 10 10 key.....

#9 cut is only applies to brands of locks that have 9 cuts,,, lots only have six depths. and so on.

[xnoobandrew]

oh..

I was about to say most key code cutters only go to 9 thats why I said that.

But remembering.. 10 10 10 is the deepest.

Thanks!

[zeke79]

Most all code machines can cut however deep you like. Only machines that cannot cut past the deepest depth are punch machines and there are ways to get them to cut past the deepest depth.

[jimmysmith]

with any bump key, go a 1/2 cut or even a full cut lower then the factory spec's deepest depth.

make them work a lot better

[jimmysmith]

yes your right zeke79, code machines can ...but not a access+ machine...for it's only a duplication machine

[WOT]

If you've got an access to a change key that contains a deepest cut, it's not hard at all. If not, CAREFULLY file down the deepest you can find to the factory spec lowest cut.

Copy the entire key over to a new blank. This will elimiate the spacing hassle. Move both keys side by side about in the vise grips and transpose the lowest cut to each position.

Go back and add the 45 degree slope on both sides of each cut and you're done.

[zeke79]

If you have an assortment of keys in the same keyway, look at all of them. If you are lucky you will have 5 keys with the deepest cut in locations 1 thru 5. It is then just a matter of inserting the first key, making the cut in space one on the bumpkey and then swapping keys out to make a full bump key.

Example would be if you had keys with the following cuts

96456
69351
04962
31590
62539

[xnoobandrew]

lol thats possible.. but whats the chance of that..