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need some help finding out what kind of lock this is

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need some help finding out what kind of lock this is

Postby savs2k » 28 Sep 2007 19:19

i've been on the forums for a while creeping and hiding. i've been trying to get as much info as i can but i've come across something i could not find. I was curious what kind of lock type is the newer motorcycle ignitions? im having a hard time finding out because when in the steering lock position you have to push the key down then turn but after the steering lock is unlocked its just a normal ignition like a car or any 2 sided lock
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Postby unbreakable » 28 Sep 2007 19:46

Hey,

Doubt you'll get that answered, auto locks are restricted to the advanced forum.

Seeing as this is your first post, welcome to the forum!
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Postby TOWCH » 28 Sep 2007 21:48

Sounds like a cool lock... I wonder if the push and turn makes it pick resistant?
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Postby Dragunov-21 » 28 Sep 2007 21:51

I think it probably would, Schuyler (I think) said something about adding the need for "pushing" force increasing pick resistance, and also I don't think that *identifying* auto locks is a problem, just picking and bypassing^

^not sure
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Postby zeke79 » 29 Sep 2007 1:14

Look into John Blankenships guide to motorcycles. It is 6 volumes if I recall correctly and goes over only motorcycle locks. A must have if you work on cycle ignitions. The set is around $250 but well worth the money as it is a huge time saver when working on these locks.
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push and turn

Postby raimundo » 29 Sep 2007 8:00

if its push and turn, you may find that you will have to invent a new style of tensor for it. Shouldnt be too hard, show us when you finish it :D 8)
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Postby savs2k » 29 Sep 2007 8:14

drav and zeke thanks alot i will be looking into that first thing in the morning =). info on this type of lock would be apreciated but since im a noob i dont expect much on it. I just wanted to know what the name of that lock type was so that i can find information about it. I was just curious because i want to learn how that type works. It's kind of like how in some cars you have to push the key in and turn to take the key out of the ignition.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 29 Sep 2007 20:32

zeke79 wrote:Look into John Blankenships guide to motorcycles. It is 6 volumes if I recall correctly and goes over only motorcycle locks. A must have if you work on cycle ignitions. The set is around $250 but well worth the money as it is a huge time saver when working on these locks.


But how often do people really need to call out a locksmith because they locked their keys in their motorcycle? :-)
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Postby Eyes_Only » 29 Sep 2007 21:01

Maybe if they got their key stuck in the ignition.
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Postby Jaakko » 30 Sep 2007 2:49

Gordon Airporte wrote:But how often do people really need to call out a locksmith because they locked their keys in their motorcycle? :-)

Possible, but very rare. My friend actually made it happen :D He had the seat up, exposing the "trunk" and put his keys there for a second to fit his helmet on and accidentally slammed the seat down and closed :D Luckily we were at his house, so spare keys from inside helped :)
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Postby Marco » 30 Sep 2007 6:34

Eyes_Only wrote:Maybe if they got their key stuck in the ignition.


Why would you need to pick the igntion if this happened?
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Postby greyman » 30 Sep 2007 14:09

I know nothing about motorcycle locks, but I don't see why they'd have to be hugely different to car locks. Most types have a mechanical actuator for the steering lock with heavy spring action on it. The rest of the lock is pure wafer normally (singe or double). Come to think of it, motorcycles don't have a steering wheel :)
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