Where to find a Schlage 5 pin cylinder

[Theif Lord]

I just read the beginners exercise and it says i should get a 5 pin cylinder lock w/o security pins. preferable Schlage (im new to locks and lockpicking but im assuming thats the brand name of the lock). Im wondering if the sites sponser (lockshop.com or whatevr it is) or one of the other sites LP101 advertises for would sell them. I would normally look myself but ive got to get off (the computer) very soon and i figured somone with a little bit of time/ experience may stumble upon my thread may knwo where to find one. Either post here or pm me. please and thank you=-).

[zeke79]

If you are just starting, go to wal-mart and pick up a kwikset or kwikset knock off deadbolt. Knockoff brands are mountain security or faultless at wal mart. Buy a double cylinder deadbolt as you get two lock cylinders for just a bit more money.

[Theif Lord]

thanks. db said that a kwikset would do but i would probably benifit from starting with a harder lock such as a schlage. does it make much of a difference?

[blake1803]

As a beginner it really shouldn't matter much. A Schlage will cost more and although they can be harder, I think that the pinning of the lock, and not its manufacturer, will probably be the determining factor in its difficulty for you.

[jedidove]

Go with the kwickset. I have the basic schlage deadbolt you can get at home depot and it has 4 spool pins. The schlage is a great teacher but starting out with it will probably be a nightmare at first. It wont be long before you move up to it but just milk the kwickset for all it has (repin harder combos, etc.) to learn the basics.

The schlage has a tighter keyway, higher tolerances, and 4 spool pins (in my experience). If two of the spool pins don't false set back and forth (set one, other false sets and vice versa) then they'll probably reset all of the pins as you push them. Once you get the hang of balancing the pushing and tension so you can make a spool pin set without reseting the others it won't be terrible. But it certainly isn't the right place to start off.

Good luck

[zeke79]

For a true beginner I'd say stay with kwikset or if you go schlage make sure it is a knock off schlage cylinder. The tolerances in the schlage knockoffs are not as good and make it an easier lock to pick. They will be harder to repin for a beginner too and will require you to have a plug follower, pinning tweezers, etc to get the job done. The kwikset deadbolt cylinders have a removable cap which allows you to rekey without fully taking the lock apart or having the above mentioned tools.

[Theif Lord]

thanks for all the awsome help you guys. this is great =-)

[Trip Doctor]

Personally, I found Kwiksets and Shlages to have very noticably different tolerances. My recommendation would be to start off with a Kwikset, you'll learn the different feels faster, then after you can feel your Kwikset out fine, you can get a Schlage - but that's just my opinion.

Speaking of Shlages, Zeke, is that Shlage you sent me a 'knockoff' or not (if you remember)? .. Because that son of a is way harder than the Kwiksets I have, lol.

[razlex]

the first lock i used to learn picking with was a weiser WR5 keyway... i found that extremely easy to pick... i then moved to a Y1 keyway, and found it considerably harder due to the restrictive keyway. would you say that a schlage, say SC1 keyway, would be easier or harder than the Y1?

[lockeymoto]

I find schlage a bit harder than a kwickset, especially with high low combinations. 6 pin, just 1 pin funner

[zeke79]

Personally, I found Kwiksets and Shlages to have very noticably different tolerances. My recommendation would be to start off with a Kwikset, you'll learn the different feels faster, then after you can feel your Kwikset out fine, you can get a Schlage - but that's just my opinion.

Speaking of Shlages, Zeke, is that Shlage you sent me a 'knockoff' or not (if you remember)? .. Because that son of a <censored> is way harder than the Kwiksets I have, lol.

I really don't recall. It was likely pinned difficult though and likely had a mix of security pins thrown in.

[WOT]

Home Depot. I doubt local lockies would be giving away scrap brass since they're worth quite a bit these days.