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Strange tool?

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Strange tool?

Postby mcm757207 » 25 Jun 2004 1:13

I was looking around online and I found a pic of this strange looking lock tool (bypassing, impressioning, I do not know). It's near the top of the page:

http://www.mbausa.com/files/2004%20Tact ... ithing.pdf

The page is about some locksmithing course or something...

It looks like there are several pieces of metal next to eachother with cuts at different hights. Has anyone seen this before?
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Postby funboy79015 » 25 Jun 2004 1:20

Looks to me like a variation on the sputnik pick.
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Postby Pheniox » 25 Jun 2004 1:21

if your referring to the top pic, I would assume its kinda a jiggler that the pin falls down the indentions on the pick and is more like a random ladder. just my thought, I havn't ever seen it either.
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Postby mcm757207 » 25 Jun 2004 1:38

Hmm... this got me thinking. What if you took several deep-hook shaped picks, (5 to be exact... you'd probobly have to find thinner metal or file it down) and put a pop rivit through it. Then you add extra handles so you can more easily change the angle of each pick. It's sorta like a home-made sputnik pick... sorta... lol. It'd be hard getting five of those next to eachother and still fitting in the keyway.
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Postby logosys » 25 Jun 2004 1:58

Does anyone have a picture of a sputnik pick?
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Postby plot » 25 Jun 2004 3:25

logosys wrote:Does anyone have a picture of a sputnik pick?


could have swore i did... but i can't find it...

anyways, it's like a key, except instead of teeth there are little wires that stick up where each teeth would... so you put the key in the lock and move the wires up and down until you get the right depths and get the lock open. the wires look down through a little hole and out the back of the key.
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Postby PickPick » 25 Jun 2004 4:37

It's a make-up kit for medeco keys. When you've found out the code for the lock by using a special wire decoder or by getting a sufficient look at the original key, you can cut the small layers to the correct shape and glue them on one another. Because of the multi layer system you can create the correct angles for the medeco pins and cut the right profile into the sides.

Both the kit and the decoder are manufactured by Falle afaik.

And for the Sputnik, I'm not at my home computer right now, so all Ican offer in terms of pictures is this, clicking on the small image will enlarge it a bit but you can't see the wires:
http://server.m-s-c.net/MSCIntershop.st ... View/50950
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Postby mbell » 25 Jun 2004 6:44

Now that's one hell of a high priced pick! I did email MSC about their Sputnik tool but I had no idea it would cost so much!

All I need to make my own now is some of the correct wire - I have no idea where I would get such thin, high strength wire.
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Postby zeke79 » 25 Jun 2004 7:12

i wonder if piano wire would be sufficient?
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Postby Romstar » 26 Jun 2004 1:54

zeke79 wrote:i wonder if piano wire would be sufficient?


You hit the nail on the head. Good old fashioned music wire. In this case we really are talking about MUSIC wire, and not just the heavier gauge stuff either.

The other option is surgial wire. I haven't bought any of that in years, and I have no idea where to tell you to buy it.

As for the piano wire, talk to a piano tuner, not just your local music store. The tuner guy knows what you need.

I hope you know how to dill very, very tiny holes. :D

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Postby logosys » 26 Jun 2004 10:52

mbell wrote:Now that's one hell of a high priced pick! I did email MSC about their Sputnik tool but I had no idea it would cost so much!

All I need to make my own now is some of the correct wire - I have no idea where I would get such thin, high strength wire.


How much does one cost?
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Postby mbell » 26 Jun 2004 10:59

Hmm..That link somebody posted to MSC's site dosnt seem to work anymore (unless you can read german and navigate the site)

I think their Sputnik was about 1200 Euros ($1456 US)
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Postby PickPick » 26 Jun 2004 12:50

If you use the posted link and click on the small grey button named "Suche" right under their logo you'll reach the search function where Sputnik gives you two results, a video about the tool and the tool itself. The tool is the more expensive one. :wink:
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 26 Jun 2004 15:46

looks like an impressioning kit or more accurately a impressioning blank for all those too good to use a regular old blank
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