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Mechanics of Locks

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Mechanics of Locks

Postby LockSmithNovice » 19 Sep 2008 12:40

Where would I start?
Are their any books I can get to help me with the mechanics of locks first. I take it as I should know every single thing about locks, how they work, how there designed, what pieces are in there before I even think of buying a pick set and start picking.
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Postby LockSmithNovice » 19 Sep 2008 12:56

It would greatly increase my chances of actually successfully getting my 'diploma' if you will on locksmithing. I won't tolerate any lower then a B on a test.
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Postby LockDFTR » 19 Sep 2008 15:12

I assume that you aren't "actually" in a locksmith program. Otherwise, your work books would have shown you the mechanics of locks.

You can try "Locks and Locksmithing" by Bill Philips. If you want to spend some money, Greyman has a great book out on higher security locks. There is "Locks, Safes, and Security" by Marc Tobias. But that is getting a little........... no, a lot on the expensive side.

You can always look on this site for free. Check out the MIT guide to lockpicking, or some other helpful online resource. All the pictures and text you could ever want is available here, or available online by someone who is a member here. Another idea, go buy a cheap deadbolt or something, and rip it apart. Play around with it for a while. You may be shocked at how much you will learn by just physically investigating a lock :)
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Postby LockSmithNovice » 19 Sep 2008 19:41

LockDFTR wrote:I assume that you aren't "actually" in a locksmith program. Otherwise, your work books would have shown you the mechanics of locks.

You can try "Locks and Locksmithing" by Bill Philips. If you want to spend some money, Greyman has a great book out on higher security locks. There is "Locks, Safes, and Security" by Marc Tobias. But that is getting a little........... no, a lot on the expensive side.

You can always look on this site for free. Check out the MIT guide to lockpicking, or some other helpful online resource. All the pictures and text you could ever want is available here, or available online by someone who is a member here. Another idea, go buy a cheap deadbolt or something, and rip it apart. Play around with it for a while. You may be shocked at how much you will learn by just physically investigating a lock :)


Nah just a novice who thought about it and really got glued to it. I got the first one. FOAF is looking for a torrent for the 1140 page book by Marc Tobias. Yeah I got pretty much close to every single sticky and lock thread pictorial on wordpad and then some. Even guides too. They're is one guide I can't find ... it was a site...not a PDF but had Chapter 1 Chapter 2 Chapter 3. It was basics. I can't find the site. It's posted on here but can't seem to find it.
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Postby greyman » 22 Sep 2008 16:19

Hi there. You ought to read the forum rules. This site is not for discussing how to rip off copyrighted material. This thread might get locked :!:

On the other hand, have you considered BUYING a book, eg, my one on high security mechanical locks. Click on my signature. You can view it for free on google books. It's not that expensive, as far as technical books go. Torrent sites are bad for authors - so browse responsibly.
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Postby TOWCH » 22 Sep 2008 22:14

Lurk and read for a while before posting. Aside from this question showing a complete lack of effort to find the answer for yourself(if you don't regular forums this is a common oopsie to make if that makes you feel better), the culture around here is not friendly to copyright infringment.

Marc Tobias is a personal friend to some members here, and respected by many others. Aside from his book being way over you head(you'll get more from the FREE:
"MIT guide to lockpicking"), talking about... benefiting from his intellectual property without comphensation... isn't a good way to make friends.

Read the MIT guide, use the search button, and welcome to the site.

I assume your Foley Belsaw course hasn't arrived yet and you're just jumping the gun?


And yes: Greyman's book is supposed to be very good and I look forward to purchasing a copy myself.
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Postby hydruh » 22 Sep 2008 22:51

I second that. As an author myself and a friend of Mr. Tobias, I recommend not using the torrents to 'obtain' the books. you won't make many friends here. There are a lot of online resources and libraries that harbor the information you seek.

I am like you in one way - I want to know EVERYTHING before I dig in. I understand. Read the stickies on this forum. You will get the general ideal that there are three primary locks - pin, wafer and lever - and that pin locks are the most common US locks and that wafers are used for many European locks, and that will give you search fodder for Google. Work from there. You will learn a LOT.

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Postby datagram » 22 Sep 2008 23:08

You don't really need a book, IMO.

Look on Youtube/GoogleVideo for videos of conferences/workshops from myself, Deviant Ollam, Barry Wells/Han Fey/TOOOL, Marc Tobias, Schuyler, renderman, etc.

All the information you need is there in full, for free.

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