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Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

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Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Postby lukeman3000 » 22 Jan 2009 17:28

Hello, this is my very first post on these forums as a new user, and I am excited about being a part of this community, as I greatly enjoy picking locks.

Anyways, I have recently had a larger interest in automotive locks. Although this is the internet and I can say whatever I want, I truly do have no intentions of doing anything illegal or anything for my personal gain.

With that said, I have been scouring the internet (and these forums) for some tutorials or good advice on picking an automotive door and ignition lock (not any specific vehicle, but just in general). And for the record, I am talking about actually picking the lock and not using a try-out or "auto jiggler" key.

Here are some questions floating around in my head:

1. Are there any big differences between the pin-tumbler lock found on my front door, and the lock on my 97 chevy s10?

2. In addition, do most US auto door locks have pins on the top and bottom, or just one or the other? What is most common?

3. I have the MXPS-20 made by Southord. Can I pick auto door locks with the tools I have in this kit, or do I need anything else? If so, what?

4. What about ignitions? I could re-type 1-3 and simply re-word them for ignitions, but that would be redundant and unnecessary.

Basically, I'd like to have the same answers for 1-3 as the pertain to ignitions, as well.

If someone could answer these questions for me, or get me pointed in the right direction on how I should approach automotive doors and ignitions, it would be greatly appreciated. I would check out the "Automotive Locks and Picks" section for myself, but I don't have access.

Thanks!
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Re: Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Postby jimb » 22 Jan 2009 18:14

Automotive discussion is only allowed in the advance section of this site.
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Re: Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Postby Squelchtone » 22 Jan 2009 18:21

lukeman3000 wrote:I would check out the "Automotive Locks and Picks" section for myself, but I don't have access.
Thanks!


Hi and welcome to the forum.

In essence pin tumbler locks and car wafer locks are physically different and different tools and methods are using for picking them.

As for answering the questions, I don't think we can. Even if you aren't up to no good, this part of the forum is publicly searchable by Google and by anyone who stops by the site and starts reading the public areas, so if we answer your questions here today, someone with bad intentions could read it tomorrow and put that information to nefarious use.

Hobby lockpicking is a great hobby to have, and there's so much to learn, that if you're interested, stick around, read as much of the public areas as you wish, ask some non automotive questions, look up wafer locks, which are much closer to the design of automotive locks than a standard pin tumbler lock, and in no time, you'll establish yourself, and can apply for access to automotive discussion and other areas such as safes and high security locks.

There was another forum on the internet last year that let you talk about any kind of lock any time right in public, but we feel a certain sense of social responsibility here and I'm kinda proud of that. Their aurguement was that the information is all out there already for anyone who cares to do months of research, so why not put it all in one easy to search location, but that just makes it wayyy too easy for bored teenagers and actual thieves.

We look forward to your contributions and questions,

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Re: Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Postby lukeman3000 » 26 Jan 2009 9:13

Thanks for taking the time to give me an informative answer, squelchtone. I understand your reasoning, but it is slightly disappointing to me. With that said, I'm sure I'm not going anywhere, although my contributions will be limited because of my total lack of knowledge!
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Re: Picking an Automotive Lock, Old-School Style...

Postby TOWCH » 28 Jan 2009 2:21

You can pick some car locks with normal picks but professionals usually don't do it, because it can break the lock and is much harder than using proper tools.
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