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What is it made for exactly ?

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What is it made for exactly ?

Postby FrenchKey » 1 Mar 2009 11:49

Hello,


The same Friend (than in the other topic), is willing to buy those picks from zieh-fix too :
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but we have 2 questions :
What are they intended for ? traditional pin tumbler locks or "radial" locks (like Keso, simple Mult-T-lock...) ?

What is the horn for ?
pushing pins ?, being a lever point ... ?

If anyone has information, let us know :D

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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby mh » 1 Mar 2009 16:58

they are made for "traditional" pin tumblers and the "horn" is designed as a lever / pivot point.

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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby 5thcorps » 1 Mar 2009 17:49

These can be used on Corbin/Russwin cylinders with ball bearings below the lower pin.
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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby FrenchKey » 2 Mar 2009 19:53

mh wrote:they are made for "traditional" pin tumblers and the "horn" is designed as a lever / pivot point.

Cheers,
mh

Thank you, it's roughly what I supposed, but how exactly ?
Because the level of movement is really small with that technique, isn't it ?

5thcorps wrote:These can be used on Corbin/Russwin cylinders with ball bearings below the lower pin.

:shock: OK, it never came into my panel of possibilities, as we have not such pins in French locks (except some complicated locks as Bricard Supersureté). Thank you very much for the info.
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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby datagram » 3 Mar 2009 0:01

FrenchKey,

I'm guesssing they just rest on the bottom on the keyway or on a ward and you pivot off of the bottom piece. So inside of moving the pick up and down as a whole piece you just move the back up and down and it moves the tip up or down.

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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby FrenchKey » 3 Mar 2009 9:11

Thank you for your answers, it will help my friend, and I'm always glad to learn new things :D
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Re: What is it made for exactly ?

Postby Engineer » 3 Mar 2009 20:59

The slight "fork" in the ends of the picks, is supposed to help you locate them better on the ends of the pins with with "domed" heads, so a normal pick will often slip off the pin, rarther than lift them.
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