Lockpicking Detection

[5thcorps]

Picked or not successfully picked, I don't know if it means a whole lot, unless they can prove When it was picked.

[datagram]

Picked or not successfully picked, I don't know if it means a whole lot, unless they can prove When it was picked.

This can be done via oxidation of the pick marks. More often than not, tool marks are compared with tools that a suspect has in their possession/belongings to determine if the tools could have made the marks that are present. In addition, material transfer between tools and locks is a popular method to link a suspect's tools to the lock.

dg

[mongo]

I'll be doing a talk on lockpicking forensics at LayerOne 2009 in May, in Los Angeles. It will cover picking, raking, bumping, impressioning, decoding, and bypass. For more info: layerone.info (they should be posting the speaker list soon). The talk was also submitted to Black Hat and Defcon in July 2009, but has yet to be accepted (I'd guess Defcon is a good/definite possibility, but IDK about Black Hat, they are a bit more digitally oriented)

By that time lockpickingforensics.com should be online, as well...and info will of course be added to Lockwiki.com, too.

Squelchtone, I did lots of similar things, but now I am working on photographing and organizing all my info at the moment. PM me if you want more info; I did similar to the OG Paholke tests.

For OP, here is an example image of a pin from a lock that has been picked:



dg

do you ever bring your show to Canada, perhaps Ottawa or Toronto? The west coast is Mars to me...

[mh]

Picked or not successfully picked, I don't know if it means a whole lot, unless they can prove When it was picked.

It means a lot if you find stuff in your home / business missing, but the doors and windows seem intact. Insurances tend to not pay out if they find that no burglary has happened.

If a lock was not successfully picked, it could be a case of insurance fraud.

[datagram]

do you ever bring your show to Canada, perhaps Ottawa or Toronto? The west coast is Mars to me...

Besides CanSec West (Vancouver), I'm not aware of any Canadian conferences that would be interested in this type of talk...please clue me in if I am wrong!

dg

[mongo]

do you ever bring your show to Canada, perhaps Ottawa or Toronto? The west coast is Mars to me...

Besides CanSec West (Vancouver), I'm not aware of any Canadian conferences that would be interested in this type of talk...please clue me in if I am wrong!

dg

Other than me and a dozen friends,,,I can't say. Who is your target audience; Law Enforcement, Lockies and maybe Forensic CSI types, insurance company?? I dont know. I would love to attend one but as I mentioned earlier I live just south of nowhere and a way north from somewhere...

[raimundo]

Data G mentions the tubular lock with the index tab cut off, (it indexes the lock by making sure that you put the key all the way in and hold it there, and also only allows the key to be removed when its in the right position.

Having worked on many different bicycle U locks, I have seen a great deal of variation in the tubular locks. Some of them if used with a key that can be removed at a place other than the outer notch can actually lose the bottom pin through the hole that lines up with the notch.