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how and when this pick tool use

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how and when this pick tool use

Postby dsilver » 27 Mar 2009 7:31

hi! i come from Taiwan,
there is some tools i want to know how to use and what are their English name,
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the most useful one is the one which has green mark
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here i mark the numbers, the green one is No.5

if the pictures are not clear, here has clear picture form Internet
http://www.thinkawesome.com/im/prodimag ... 04289g.jpg
http://www.topsecretmagic.co.uk/Lockpic ... 20lock.jpg
i don't know when and how others pick tool use
my friend has ever told me the red handle is used when key is broken in the key hole,

and i have already search the artical about them but have no idea

please tell me how u call this tool and
please teach me how and when these tool use and
what kind of locks does this tool match.
thx.
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby ToolyMcgee » 27 Mar 2009 7:59

Hello dsilver. Your green mark tool looks like a short hook of some type. 4,7, and 8 are pin tumbler rake type picks. 3 is a dimple key rake pick. 6 is a ball/fulcrum hook pick.

I think hook type picks are the best for all locks. Maybe this hyperlink can help you identify more of your picks. Unfortunately it does not have photos.
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7568

-Tooly
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby Riordian » 27 Mar 2009 10:08

Hello dsilver. Probably the one you indicate is a small short hook pick but i can't tell for sure, I need a really close up picture. As for the red handles I can't see what they are, if they are indeed used as your friend said then they are broken key extractors. Broken key extractors are mainly used to remove keys or metal thing that are trapped in the keyhole thus preventing it from locking and unlocking.
9 is probably the manual equivalent to a pick gun but i am not so sure. I agree with McGee for 3,4,6,7 and 8, as for the 10 i'd say a double ended, double sided lock tension wrench. By the looks of them probably they are homemade or really old.
As for the intstructions and how to use them, there are hundreds of books and videos to buy and thousands of free articles and videos over the internet.
You may want to start your search by the keywords lockpicking for beginners, as i have seen you can order books from internet and also find some decent instructions free online.
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby raimundo » 27 Mar 2009 10:16

Read toolys post for the function of these picks, but tell me where you bought these picks, and if possible, give an internet address for the manufacturer, The handles on those picks in the first two thumbnails, are the first I have seen like this on commercial picks.
I really think a number of people on this site would be interested in finding out where these come from.

Do they have a brand name on them or thier case?
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby dsilver » 28 Mar 2009 6:49

thanks ToolyMcgee,Riordian and raimundo
thanks your reply,
all tools are not homemade
the brand is Elishttp://www.elis.com.tw/
but there is no picture the same of my tools

i see ToolyMcgee's reply and try some keywords,
i find this site
http://www.lockpickknowledge.com/toolidentifier.php
there have some explain and picture

i'm sorry i put the unclear picture
so i take the tools again
i use No.5 be the standard and put it left
this is No.1 and No.2,
I see they are the same,
i'm sorry i give them two Number, let you intermix
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because it is very thin,
there are clearer picture but too big to put on here
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/3 ... 6799e4.jpg

this is No.3 and side view
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this is No.4
it's name is "Double ball pick"
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this is No.5(the left) and other hook type pick,No.6 is the right.
i usually use No.5 because it is the thinnest
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this is No.7 and No.8,
they loos like a saw, and No.8 is thinner than No.7
i search it's name is "Snake pick" or "Mutiple Teethed pick"
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and here is clearer picture
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this is No.9
it's name maybe "Half Diamond pick", i am not sure...
the pictures also too big to put on here
http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/3 ... b7af1c.jpg
http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/3 ... e8d50e.jpg
http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/3 ... f4dc64.jpg

this is two sides of No.10, it's not homemade
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby Riordian » 28 Mar 2009 7:23

No.1 and 2 are probably broken key extractors rather unusual ones(i've never seen tis kind before.. maybe they are universal). No.3 is a pick to pick locks where the pins are at the sides of the lock (never seen this pick before but i've seen some friends doors who needed that pick). I really can't tell what No.9 is, if it is a half diamond it's a rather unique kind because it makes its body in the shape of the wards of the lock. As for 10 i stick to the former opinion of mine, a 2-sided tension wrench for double sided locks.
The rest you got them right, and its nice to have 3 kinds of hook picks.
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Re: how and when this pick tool use

Postby Engineer » 28 Mar 2009 23:45

Nos.1 & 2 looks like a little spiral? if so, these are definately broken key extractors. These do get "used" up very slowly as they are used.

No.3 Looks like a dimple lock rake to me (like a "waffle" shape).

Nos.4-8 You know correctly

No.9 I don't know - I have never seen a pick anything like that one before. Possibly it might be for a type of lock that I don't get to see over here in the UK much? Either that or it's just a new design I've not seen before!

No.10 Is quite stylised isn't it? Again very interesting and I think it is a wrench and pick for tubular locks. A bit like the "Dragon" muti-tool, I think the forks fit in the slot down the central core of tubular locks, so you apply tension that way, while the other "needle" ends are for single pin picking the pins around the core. This was the (slow) way tubular locks were picked before modern tubular picks were invented. They are still picked the old way when you don't have a modern pick at hand, or you are presented with a tubular lock that has somehow got stuck only partly turned.

Very interesting set, thank you for sharing the picture with us!
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