6 Pins lock: three rows of two pins each

by **SalaKrestu** » 26 Mar 2009 9:54

Hello, as I've already stated Here, I have a qeustion about this particular kind of lock. I found it in one drawer and decided to test my new homemade tools on it.

This kind of lock consists of 6 pins distributed on 3 rows, each containg 2 pins. It is incredibly easy to pick since there's plenty of space to operate the pick and since you can see the pins clearly. The problem is that, once I set all the pins, I can only turn the lock for 90 degrees and then I have to re-set them all again in order to turn it further. Since to open this lock you need to make three whole turns, this requires the pins to be set about 12 times. This is really not comfortable. I wonder if there is a better way to pick it...

The lock I am talking about:

My tools, a modified heavily fork and a screwdriver:

I apologize if this subject has already been dealt with, but I really couldn't find any infos about this, since I don't even know the name of the lock!

by **datagram** » 26 Mar 2009 14:03

A 'plug spinner' is what you want. It rotates the plug fast enough that the pins don't catch when it spins around.

dg

by **SalaKrestu** » 26 Mar 2009 16:45

Thanks for the answer datagram! I will get info on this tool and try to build one, if possible. :wink:

I just noticed the pictures on my first post are no longer visible... :shock:

by **TTXIII** » 26 Mar 2009 23:46

Plug spinners are available at our sponsor's website (http://www.lockpickshop.com) if you want to purchase one. If you still want to build one check out this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9096

Cheers,
-XIII

by **SalaKrestu** » 27 Mar 2009 5:28

Thanks but I am all for DIY, it gives me a much greater satisfaction! :mrgreen:

BTW the pictures are visible again now :roll:

by **femurat** » 27 Mar 2009 5:41

I have a lock like this

It's easier than a traditional one for to reasons:
1 - in this keyway you have more room to work;
2 - when you rotate it you don't need to pick the 2 pins on the side where the flat side of the key was, cause there aren't holes in that side of the plug. So, the first step is the hardest, but then you have to deal only with 4 pins...

The most important thing with this kind of locks is to have a well fitting wrench, then you're almost done!

Cheers

by **SalaKrestu** » 27 Mar 2009 9:03

femurat wrote:It's easier than a traditional one

Yup! Picking this lock is a piece of cake. It is just annoying that you have to re-set them every 90 degrees... even though, as you stated, you don't have to do it with all of them. Anyway I am working on plug spinner made from an Exe Key and a Spring...

by **raimundo** » 27 Mar 2009 10:09

I think you should work on making a better pickset. Even a piano wire set would be better than that piece of fork, seriously. You will not really become a good picker if you are using something that cannot even go into most locks
I think you should collect some wiper stiffeners from a garage if you can,t find sweeper bristle. there is a lot less metal to file/grind away if you start with these than if you are useing hacksaw blades.

A six pin papaiz type lock, is just security theater, it wants to look like a serious lock but its just not, the tools you used to open it prove that.

by **SalaKrestu** » 27 Mar 2009 10:50

Thanks for the tips raimundo, as soon as I find some decent materials I will work on a better pickset! Those "picks" I made are just my first attempt ever... perhaps, with time, I'll be able to create something a bit more "serious". Anyway the purpouse of my fork-pick was to be able to pick a common 5 pins tumbler lock and it does its job nicely. The "raking" side still needs to be heavily polished tho.

by **chev49** » 28 Mar 2009 13:38

I think we need a special cagetory for unusual implements that are made into picks, etc., since I never thought one could make a pick out of a fork.
I once made a set of picks out of thin stainless steel steak knives because they had wooden handles ( & were 5 cents each at the thrift store). Thanks for the post, Rick

by **SalaKrestu** » 28 Mar 2009 19:30

Yeah, I know it is unusual but I had to use what I found around... :mrgreen:

Anyway I think that with a dremel you can get a pick out of almost anything. It might not look "professional", but as long as it does its job I am okay with it.

[quote=chev49]I once made a set of picks out of thin stainless steel steak knives because they had wooden handles[/quote]
Do you have any pictures?

by **chev49** » 29 Mar 2009 18:41

Do not have pics, but if you can get the thin ss steeel (paring knife size) it is easy to use your bench grinder & dremel to shape into different pick ends. I ground the shafts to normal pick width for about 2 inches after I made the pick ends. (Remember to cut off the end back far enough to make the pick) For Me, they work fine, but just are not as easy to carry in my pocket tool kit.

by **SalaKrestu** » 31 Mar 2009 6:52

chev49 wrote:Do not have pics, but if you can get the thin ss steeel (paring knife size) it is easy to use your bench grinder & dremel to shape into different pick ends. I ground the shafts to normal pick width for about 2 inches after I made the pick ends. (Remember to cut off the end back far enough to make the pick) For Me, they work fine, but just are not as easy to carry in my pocket tool kit.

Thanks for the tip, I'll see what I can find...

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