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Concelable or jackknife pick set?

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Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby johno75 » 3 Jun 2009 10:02

Hi,

i am looking to buy a concealable or jack knife pick set to carry on me at all times.

Which is a better buy either a jack knife pickset like the southord one or others or i have seen the southern specialties concelable one at a good price http://www.lockpicktools.com/lockpicks.htm
any recommendations greatly appreciated.

cheers

johno
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby TigerDragon » 3 Jun 2009 10:07

johno75 wrote:Hi,

i am looking to buy a concealable or jack knife pick set to carry on me at all times.

Which is a better buy either a jack knife pickset like the southord one or others or i have seen the southern specialties concelable one at a good price http://www.lockpicktools.com/lockpicks.htm
any recommendations greatly appreciated.

cheers

johno


I don't know why you want a concealable set of picks, but my personal recommendation is to forget about jacknife pick sets. Feedback is pretty nonexistent. Get yourself a set of Bogotas made by raimundo instead.
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby Olson Burry » 3 Jun 2009 10:09

Concealed from who exactly? The police have a knack of finding stuff that you have with you and I'm sure members of this forum would not promote such an activity for surreptitious use.

That said, don't buy a jackknife, if you're a proper hobby picker then you surly will appreciate the benefits of a proper decent hook and a couple of fine wrenches.
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby l0ckp1cker » 3 Jun 2009 11:40

Assuming you live in a country / state where it's legal to carry picks with you, than (and here we go again) I would recommend the jack knife from Southord.

Yes, the feedback is different so you just need to learn to use it properly.
It has a big handle which makes it a little heavier, but that shouldn't be a problem.
Every lock that I can pick with the regular Southord pick set (not the slimline) I can also pick with the jack knife and visa versa.
There isn't really any difference in it in my opinion.

I know many people will disagree but I wonder how many of them have actually given the jack knife a fair chance... You need to get used to it, but then it's just as good as a regular pick set ;)
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby unlisted » 3 Jun 2009 11:45

.... I'll take the high road on this one..

To elaborate on some already mentioned things- jackknife picks have crap feedback, and so will mini picks, or anything else easily concealable. So, you should not waste your time on items like that.


Secondly, regarding you actually wanting to conceal them- If you have no ill intent, and are just worried about the police finding your hobby picks in public- cause I think I remember them being rather illegal in your country- here is the issue.


Walking down the road with some friends, police decide to "target" your group of friends without cause. (just because they see a group of people- it happens all over the world) After a quick search of all your friends they come upon you. Now, they find your well concealed picks- here is what would happen. You and all your friends would goto jail and be charged for suspicion of burglary, and you for possession of burglary tools. All the unsolved thefts in the area would be "pinned" on you and your group of friends.

So, carrying concealed lockpick tools is not really recommended. More so if they are illegal in your country. The second something is concealed its considered a weapon or a burglary tool.

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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby thelockpickkid » 3 Jun 2009 14:20

Based on all your other posts, all I have to say is , don't come crying to us when you go to jail, be careful, if your country has strict rules don't conceal picks, if you ever want to become a locksmith, or anything involving security you won't be able to if you get a conviction of "burglary tools" just remember that.
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby w00tb0t » 3 Jun 2009 15:22

Don't conceal your picks, end of story. Its not a good idea to hide anything, even if you don't have anything to hide, it may make you seem suspicious, and will give you a whole lot of trouble if they are discovered. And trust me, if they are on your person, a police officer can and will find it. For examples go take a tour of you standard jail museum. I am sure they have a section filled with weird items inmates attempted to hide from officers in odd "orifices"

Now for the jackknives, I am sure if you get a decent quality one, like the aforementioned southord jackknife, and practice with it, it will be a decent pick, but my experience with jack knives have been soured by a very cheap plastic one I purchased recently.

If you really want a "pocket" set. I would recommend the HPC wallet set. It comes with quite a few picks, and it doesn't feel as adulterated as the jackknife sets (at least to me). And you also get a spiffy leather wallet.

Just remember, cover your own backside. If possession of a pick set is illegal in your state/country, then it may not be a good idea to own or carry one (especially in public). Weigh your risks.
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby l0ckp1cker » 3 Jun 2009 17:37

As I'm not a native english speaker I probably misinterpreted the term "concealed".
I was thinking more in the line of carrying it with you without being bothered by it.
So a small thing which fits in the pocket and it strong enough so it won't bend in your pocket.

If you mean concealed like in hiding it from other people (esp. police) then I would suggest to forget about it.
If you really want to enter something illegally, then why bother with picks? Get the nearest rock and put it through the window. This will allow entry and doesn't have to be concealed at all as they can be find everywhere.
However, if you do decide to break in somewhere, then don't complain if you get arrested and will be thrown into jail for a few years. It's your life and you're responsible for your actions ;)
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby unlisted » 3 Jun 2009 17:41

"concealed" can and does mean putting an object in a pocket... a multi tool in a belt holster covered by a shirt or jacket can be considered a concealed weapon if a officer sees fit...
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby sir lot is here » 4 Jun 2009 12:34

johno75 wrote:Hi,

i am looking to buy a concealable or jack knife pick set to carry on me at all times.

Which is a better buy either a jack knife pickset like the southord one or others or i have seen the southern specialties concelable one at a good price http://www.lockpicktools.com/lockpicks.htm
any recommendations greatly appreciated.

cheers

johno



Hi , im looking at buying the same weapon :wink: i was just wondering from the advice given where you bought from ? if you did !

Thanks inadvance
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby Solomon » 4 Jun 2009 23:47

A lot of people say you don't get any feedback from a jackknife, but I disagree. If you rest a finger on the blade of the pick, the feedback is almost identical to that of a standard handled pick. My friend has one which I sold to him a long time ago; he has lost the grubscrew for locking the pick in place, and I have still used it to successfully open every lock I have opened with my normal ones.

They're not good for beginners, I admit, but only because you only get one tension wrench with it. 8)
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby sir lot is here » 5 Jun 2009 17:43

Only one tension wrench,yes very true but how many cars and vans and trucks are on our roads :wink: :roll:
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Re: Concelable or jackknife pick set?

Postby thelockpickkid » 5 Jun 2009 21:32

sir lot is here wrote:Only one tension wrench,yes very true but how many cars and vans and trucks are on our roads :wink: :roll:



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