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Lock suggestions

Postby happycetacean » 21 Jun 2009 12:37

Hi all,

I am a total n00b and just found this forum last night.

Learning to pick locks for fun. I have a small Southord pickset and an old Fortress 40 mm four pin padlock I am practicisng on. That is the darndest lock to pick, since the last pin in there deep and I can't get at it with my limited pickset.

I read the FAQs and I do have one question?

I have family in Brasil who own a small storage shed with a metal door, no windows, cement block walls on all sides. It is secured with a round Abus Buffo 28/70 lock that I bought for them from the States. The lock is fitted to a hefty hasp. I thought we were safe, until I saw how easily that lock can be picked.

Which lock would you recommend for securing this little shed? The shed is located off-street that opens into an alley-way. It is used to store inventory for a small shop that they own. No guard or good lighting at night. So far, no one has picked it, but the lock has been banged and beaten by people trying to get in. I thought a lock like that would be ideal, since it is hard to pry open and all, but never considered how easy it could be picked.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby barbarian » 21 Jun 2009 18:36

I've seen those heavy duty padlocks on Ebay with the Medeco or Abus core in them.

Make sure the hasp or chain can't be cut easily. If they see a new lock they might increase the entry effort.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby happycetacean » 21 Jun 2009 19:40

barbarian wrote:I've seen those heavy duty padlocks on Ebay with the Medeco or Abus core in them.

Make sure the hasp or chain can't be cut easily. If they see a new lock they might increase the entry effort.


The lock I have is a lock with an Abus core, right? It can be picked in a few seconds it seems.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby unlisted » 21 Jun 2009 22:35

Small keyways make picking slightly hard.. Plus I don't know too many people who can pick in the dark... :wink:

And I would say from what you mention in the first post, its doing a good job thus far, its taken a beating from people but its still working...

If your really concerned about picking you will need a high security lock, like medeco, mul-t lock, abloy, sargent and greenleaf, etc. Which would all look different from the current one...

If you want a good lock, that looks the same, here is what you need:
(take notice of the keys)
http://cgi.ebay.com/HIGH-SECURITY-PADLO ... 1|294%3A50



If you want something that can literally take a beating:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USGI-HIGH-SECURITY- ... 1|294%3A50


If you want a really good strong all around unpickable padlock, look at having a Abloy restricted keyway in a strong padlock.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby l0ckp1cker » 22 Jun 2009 0:26

I agree with unlisted (although I do pick in the complete dark to improve my senses for picking).
You've seen the skills you require to pick a lock. ABUS are good locks and with a high-low bitting it can be a nice challenge to pick. People won't pick it by accident.
The people who beat up the lock most likely don't have the skills to pick it, so don't worry about that.
If you do however want a strong lock which is hard to pick, I would suggest one of the Abloy's Padlocks or Anchor Las which has some very strong locks (with disc detainers) as well.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby happycetacean » 22 Jun 2009 1:34

unlisted wrote:Small keyways make picking slightly hard.. Plus I don't know too many people who can pick in the dark... :wink:

And I would say from what you mention in the first post, its doing a good job thus far, its taken a beating from people but its still working...

If your really concerned about picking you will need a high security lock, like medeco, mul-t lock, abloy, sargent and greenleaf, etc. Which would all look different from the current one...

If you want a good lock, that looks the same, here is what you need:
(take notice of the keys)
http://cgi.ebay.com/HIGH-SECURITY-PADLO ... 1|294%3A50



If you want something that can literally take a beating:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USGI-HIGH-SECURITY- ... 1|294%3A50


If you want a really good strong all around unpickable padlock, look at having a Abloy restricted keyway in a strong padlock.



Thanks for the links. Wow, those seem to be some serious locks. :)
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby barbarian » 22 Jun 2009 9:48

happycetacean wrote:
The lock I have is a lock with an Abus core, right? It can be picked in a few seconds it seems.



Sorry.. Yeah I meant disc lock.. Was thinking of typing Abloy.
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby thedominator7a » 28 Jun 2009 4:38

Abloy locks can be extremely hard to impossible to pick, especially the abbloy protect. Kabba quattros are also extremely hard to pick
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby euphoricism » 29 Jun 2009 21:13

is the ABUS lock pictured in happycetacean a design that is common? I just moved into a new apartment, and the previous resident left a nearly identical looking lock on it (with no key of course... grrr), but instead of having ABUS stamped on it, it said U-Haul -- like the moving truck. (I imagine he just forgot to return the lock when he moved out several months ago heh).

You think its the same ABUS lock that has just been rebranded?
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Re: Lock suggestions

Postby LocksmithArmy » 29 Jun 2009 21:19

knowing u-haul probably but i have seen many disk shaped locks before. my grandfather has a collection of such locks and not too many of his old locks are abus...

so im sure other companies make locks in this shape


my suggestion is ppick it and c :D
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