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[Rath]

this is going to sound verry dumb but why is it such a big deal about the advanced lockpicking fourm because with a little poking around the web im sure you can find the same taticts and what ever else discussed in the restricted fourm else where. just wondering

[thertel]

I don't have access to those forums but I'm going to guess the talks are a little more indepth than what will be found on the internet. Also there might be bypass methods discussed for certain locks that are not easily found on the internet.

But mainly I believe it is because this forum should not be used as a clearinghouse for advanced information. I mean if you google for just about anything on locks we are one of the first links. Consider what would happen were the info in the secure forums to be made public.

google search "drill template kaba mas x-09"

Now imagine how much of a problem this could cause for places using that lock, or in the case of this forum someone once mentioned that there is a obvious bypass for the x-09 once you stop thinking about it from a safecrackers point of view. Can you imagine if that were made freely available to anyone who googled?

Well thats just my two cents and it may not mean much to you since I dont have access to the secure forum. But it seems completely logical and rational.

Thomas

[Rath]

well if they where that desprate there are many other ways to gain acess then bothering with the lock. like sledge hammers or bricks do well
lol o well its all in good fun

[thertel]

Well I can imagine many situations where NDE would be useful whereas a brute force would be noticed almost instantly.

All I'm saying is that slamming a sledge ontom a lock multiple times ot open it is loud, while bypassing it is quite and sneaky.

Sneaky is good.

Thomas

[Rath]

lol most thievs dont care. most of them have balls of steel they will try anything hell mostlikley they aint got nothing to lose anyways

[Allmytimerblongtothis]

lol most thievs dont care. most of them have balls of steel they will try anything hell mostlikley they aint got nothing to lose anyways

no, unless your talking about first-timers.

[Allmytimerblongtothis]

What I believe the advanced lockpicking is for is locksmiths or mods, correct me if I'm wrong all you people who do have access. These are people who, when given knowledge about how to specifically open a lock, they aren't going to use it against that particular lock and put this knowledge to wrong. The last thing the moderators woudl want is the parent of a 12-year-old threatening lawsuits because their son didn't know any better and opened a lock "under instruction of locksmithing101.com."
This is just an assumption, maybe I'm making an ass out of myslef again but that's what I think. Mods? Pros? am I right or wrong?

[Rath]

lol they could find out how to do that in the open fourms and besides if a 12 yo could understand and open the stuff they are talking about well good luck keeping him behind bars cause that is one smart ass kid

[alias]

Hey Rath,

Think about it this way. The mods and members of LP101 have no control over the information that's available on the internet besides what is posted here. If someone wants to bypass a particular lock and finds the information somewhere else, then noone here can take any blame/responisibility/sh*t for it happening. But if the information did come from LP101, and as thertel says, LP101 is pretty high up on any Google search for pretty much anything lock related, then people can start questioning the legality/ethics of the members of the boards.

One day when I've earned it and have a reason to be in the Advanced Forums I'd love to be accepted but until then, as you say, Google really isn't that hard for any information I can't find in the normal forums.

Andrew

[Allmytimerblongtothis]

lol they could find out how to do that in the open fourms and besides if a 12 yo could understand and open the stuff they are talking about well good luck keeping him behind bars cause that is one smart ass kid

no, why don't you pick a padlock, any master padlock, and tell me what model, then find in the public forums it's weakness poitns and flaws....we'll see how right you are, no it's not one msart ass kid, what they are probably talking about is lets say for instance one of them is having trouble with a certain model lock, he can ask them if they know of any good ways to open it, any flaws that locksmiths tend to know about from experience, you think soem 12 year old bastards gonna be able to answer the lock smiths question? no, but the other people on there can, so that's why 12 year olds with an urge to bend rules is not allowed in there, you see, because if he did, he could walk up to his next door neighbors lock and know Exactly what method to go for. you see?

[Rath]

well the leagality issues can be solved with a waver wich im sure that this site allredy has for the normal disscousion. but im just wondering because on other fourm i have belonged to restricted areas have been target to hackers and then they go wiping out the fourms and what ever else. just my past expierince chiming in. lol its all good chill

[Allmytimerblongtothis]

well if they where that desprate there are many other ways to gain acess then bothering with the lock. like sledge hammers or bricks do well
lol o well its all in good fun

All a brick's gonna do is make noise or clog the plug up with brick dust. A sledgehammer would break the door, lock, part of the house down, does that qualify as lockpicking?

[Pheniox]

reason for restricted forums is So we can have a place to post information that only the advanced side of LP101 can have. What is posted there is for members to know and the rest of you all to wonder about and aruge over, but not on the forums.


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