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American mortise locks

Postby Rickthepick » 25 Sep 2009 7:55

Do you have lever mortise locks over there?

iv read the term 'deadbolt' a few times but assume your referring to cylinder operated ones?

What types of lever lock do you have out there?
In the UK the most secure doors usually have a good combo of a lever mortise deadbolt and a high security cylinder.
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby unlisted » 25 Sep 2009 16:12

we have lots of locks over here in North America. Lever mortise is a rare breed, normally being found on older buildings, and/or expensive places that want that look. Many commercial buildings use mortise with a cylinder instead of a lever lock. When refering to a deadbolt, it is normally a cylinder type.

I have both a lever mortise and abloy deadbolts.. :)
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby tballard » 25 Sep 2009 21:55

Generally speaking residential doors (and the vast majority of commercial ones) in the US are pin-tumbler Lever locks exist, but are rare. Dimple locks, disc-detainer, etc obviously are around as well, but tend to be found more on objects, and commercial doors. Even the high security locks tend to be more along the lines of Medeco and Schlage Primus (which are pin-tumbler based)

I'd love to give you a good reason as to why this is, but I think it's just a cultural thing. Whenever I am showing locks to people, they are always interested in the non-pin-tumbler keys (like Abloys) since they haven't seen them before.
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby Rickthepick » 26 Sep 2009 3:36

I suppose from a fitting point of view, mortise locks are a pain in the backside theres a lot of woodwork involved which personally i hate
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 26 Sep 2009 13:07

Rickthepick wrote:I suppose from a fitting point of view, mortise locks are a pain in the backside theres a lot of woodwork involved which personally i hate


Yep. It was popular in the early half of the 20th century and it see them all the time in older homes. Very ornamental and mechanically sound locks, just great stuff.

When refering to a deadbolt, it is normally a cylinder type.


What? A deadbolt, as defined by the industry, is a bolt that requires deliberate action to extend, and which resists end pressure in the unlocking direction when fully extended. That is where it gets it's 'dead' portion from. A deadbolt can be operated via a mortise cylinder, such as a mortise lock, or a rim cylinder, such as a surface mounted deadbolt. A deadbolt will never, ever describe a a cylinder type.
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby straightpick » 26 Sep 2009 15:00

Mortise locks are alive and well in the US. They are used on high traffic areas like schools, hospitals, commercial buildings, etc. because they are solidly built and reliable. You can get any type of trim you want on them, knob or lever. Mortise locks incorporate both the latch function and deadbolt function in the same case. You can order the doors prepped for any style mortise lock you want or the door can be prepped for one very easily with the proper jig.

They also have just "deadbolts" that do not have a latch in the mortise style. These are refered to as deadlocks.
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Re: American mortise locks

Postby Rickthepick » 27 Sep 2009 3:56

Any particular makes? id like to see some pics as i cant seem to find any
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Re: American mortise locks

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