Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Key extractors

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
Forum rules
Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Key extractors

Postby Rickthepick » 9 Dec 2009 10:59

Anyone know where i can buy a cheap set of key extractors online. The ones i know to are overpriced for what they are

They look like thin wires with little barbs on to screw into the warding of the key piece
Rickthepick
 
Posts: 1613
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 4:15
Location: UK

Re: Key extractors

Postby globallockytoo » 9 Dec 2009 12:07

In my opinion, attempting to "cheap out" on tools is the epitome of a poor tradesman.

A true professional will never want the cheap stuff and will care properly for their tools.
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

Disclaimer: Do not pull tag off mattress. Not responsible for legal advice while laughing.
Bilock - The Original True Bump Proof Pin Tumbler System!
globallockytoo
 
Posts: 2269
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 13:33

Re: Key extractors

Postby ElAbogado » 9 Dec 2009 14:00

Rickthepick wrote:Anyone know where i can buy a cheap set of key extractors online. The ones i know to are overpriced for what they are

They look like thin wires with little barbs on to screw into the warding of the key piece



Intermountain Lock and Supply in Salt Lake City, Utah has the A-130 for under $5.00 US. Photo below:
ElAbogado
 
Posts: 226
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 22:19

Re: Key extractors

Postby lock2006 » 9 Dec 2009 16:02

You got the link for this site and do they sell to the public or only to locksmith
thanks.
lock2006
 
Posts: 502
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 19:19
Location: California U.S.A

Re: Key extractors

Postby Rickthepick » 9 Dec 2009 17:02

globallockytoo wrote:In my opinion, attempting to "cheap out" on tools is the epitome of a poor tradesman.

A true professional will never want the cheap stuff and will care properly for their tools.


I didnt mean cheap as in poor quality...

Just becuase your paying premium doesnt always mean you will get the best product,

i think you are quick to make assumptions
Rickthepick
 
Posts: 1613
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 4:15
Location: UK

Re: Key extractors

Postby globallockytoo » 9 Dec 2009 19:23

the statement was a broad generalisation. I was not trying to insult you. If you resemble the remark, perhaps you are the one with the issue.
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

Disclaimer: Do not pull tag off mattress. Not responsible for legal advice while laughing.
Bilock - The Original True Bump Proof Pin Tumbler System!
globallockytoo
 
Posts: 2269
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 13:33

Re: Key extractors

Postby FarmerFreak » 9 Dec 2009 20:51

globallockytoo, as a general comment you are correct. But when it comes to key extractors I have yet to find one that I can buy that I think is actually good,...as is, without modification.

ElAbogado wrote:Intermountain Lock and Supply in Salt Lake City, Utah has the A-130 for under $5.00 US. Photo below:
Yes, they do have some cheap (costing) key extractors. But Rickthepick is in the UK, and I don't think they ship there. I could be wrong. They are also wholesale only, so unfortunately hobbyists can't buy there.

I'm not sure of a good place to buy them online. But I will at least give you my recommendations for a good key extractor.

First thing to mention is that if you like the spirals (like the one ElAbogado has a picture of). You should consider grinding the threads off of one side, so when you try to pull the key out of the lock you aren't also trying to pull out the cylinder/wafers. I say wafers because most broken keys are in wafer locks and not pin tumbler. Not that it doesn't happen, just not as often.

What I recommend isn't spirals, I'm not a fan of them. I prefer a small hook that goes behind the key and pulls it out from the tip. Most of the ones that are sold and claim to be good,...stink, they are too thin and break far to easily.

Get yourself a couple of HPC EZ-2 key extractors. Without modification they won't be of any use, but they are cheap to buy.
Image
This is how they come, big bulky and crappy. Then you grind it down to the size you want.
Image
This will be stronger than the thin ones sold this way. And thus it will last longer and pull out many more keys before needing to be replaced.

The next problem is pushing the wafers/pins, or whatever else may be in front of the broken key out of the way. To do this I use what I refer to as a "sight tool" They aren't sold anywhere. It has to be strong, straight, come to a point, and be offset so you can see into the lock while holding it.
Image
Now you just need to light up the keyway, so you can see what you are doing.
Image
Since you only have two hands, sometimes I find it helpful to clip the light to the sight tool.
Image

Look for some HPC EZ-2's and have some fun. :)
Hope this helps
Farmerfreak
FarmerFreak
 
Posts: 737
Joined: 21 Apr 2009 11:58
Location: SLC, Utah

Re: Key extractors

Postby straightpick » 9 Dec 2009 22:28

You can make some very good ones from scroll or fret saw blades, some of which are quite thin and strong (60-70 teeth per inch). Get a pin vise to hold them in use and dress them to your liking with a Dremel.
straightpick
 
Posts: 221
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 22:41
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Re: Key extractors

Postby Wizer » 10 Dec 2009 1:20

Sks keys has extractors from 2 to 4£.
Thery are wholesale.
Lots of other good stuff too, some of it half price of what I used to pay.
User avatar
Wizer
 
Posts: 687
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 3:54
Location: Finland

Re: Key extractors

Postby keysman » 10 Dec 2009 12:04

ElAbogado wrote:Intermountain Lock and Supply in Salt Lake City, Utah has the A-130 for under $5.00 US. Photo below:
Yes, they do have some cheap (costing) key extractors. But Rickthepick is in the UK, and I don't think they ship there. I could be wrong. They are also wholesale only, so unfortunately hobbyists can't buy there.

[/quote]

I have an account with IML .. just let me know what you need.. I can ship up to 2 lbs ( 1 Kilo) for $9.00 to most places in the world.
Everyone who eats potatoes eventually dies. Therefore potatoes are poisonous.
keysman
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 1174
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 5:09
Location: Las Vegas,Nv.USA

Re: Key extractors

Postby npdaniels » 10 Dec 2009 23:04

I bought this set of Peterson extractors http://www.lockpicks.com/brokenkeyextractorkit3pc.aspx and they have worked well for me every time. At 23.00 I can't see them being overpriced as the first time using them should pay for the entire set. They also ship internationally.
Keys? We don't need no stinkin keys!
npdaniels
 
Posts: 108
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 23:14
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: Key extractors

Postby yono » 11 Dec 2009 4:28

hi pal, i wish you are just nearby that i can give you some of these key extractors i made. anyway i noted, you are a locksmith too, and if you have that old weiser knob locks, the outer rose spring is an ideal material for the project.(if you wish to make your own) here are some of my project to give you some idea how to make it. it is so simple to make one, if you have the material that i mentioned. here are some picture of it.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn11 ... 040733.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn11 ... actor1.jpg
hi everyone, im glad to be a member of this very interesting community, our community of locksmiths. i hope i could help others, within my ability, and hope you can help me too, God bless us all fellow locksmiths.
yono
 
Posts: 384
Joined: 1 May 2008 4:35
Location: saudi arabia

Re: Key extractors

Postby unlisted » 11 Dec 2009 4:54

Hey Yono, nice to see you around again!
New user? Click HERE & HERE & HERE
unlisted
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 3131
Joined: 27 May 2006 0:42
Location: Canada

Re: Key extractors

Postby Rickthepick » 11 Dec 2009 5:01

Those home made ones are pretty cool, i was particularly after the finely barbed wire piece that you can twist further into the gap. Mainly for removing bits of car key from the ignition barrel.

Might have a go at making up a few things though when i get spare time
Rickthepick
 
Posts: 1613
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 4:15
Location: UK


Return to Got Questions? - Ask Beginner Hobby Lockpicking Questions Here

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests