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manual pick gun ? which to buy

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manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby drop dead fred » 11 Feb 2010 18:10

Hi guys, i have good idea of hand picks ? good/bad ect - but im more unsure of what manual pick gun to go for ???
Southord ? any good
majestic ? more pricey
klom ? any good

Im not sure eaither if dino do make one or peterson hpc and others , havent heard much infomation on this !

I;d like to hear you views

thanks inadvance
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby drop dead fred » 12 Feb 2010 12:15

Or right , thanks for nothing :lol:
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby rx6006 » 12 Feb 2010 14:01

Try giving our members more than half a business day to answer your question before letting impatience get the better of you. In the mean time, please try the handy-dandy "Search" function on the toolbar found to the left of your screen. Many of our hobbyist members don't particularly see the value in pick guns, as these tools are really better left to locksmiths or security professionals who may need to breach a door with minimal SPP training on a moment's notice. If you're a hobbyist like most of us, you'd really be better off with picks imo.
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby Bad_Jason » 12 Feb 2010 15:15

I'm a total hobbiest, but I bought the Southord pick gun for $hits and giggles. I can't say I use it often as I prefer SPPing... but the times I have used it the needle becomes loose after a few snaps. I've managed to open several locks with it with relative ease, but I CAN see how it could get annoying to continuously have to tighten the needle.

For my lowly needs it works well, but if my lively hood depended on a pick gun, I'd likely look elsewhere.

Unfortunately I'm tied to just Southord tools at this point due to the fact that I can't find anyone who will ship me HPCs, etc. Southford picks seem to do the job, but I'd really like to see how other manufacturer's tools feel.

Just curious, but do they sell picks and pick related gear at gun shows?
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby rx6006 » 12 Feb 2010 16:21

I've seen the odd pick set and manual gun at a few gun show booths. Typically, they're the same type as ones from "personal defense" or military surplus catalogs. The prices on the guns were awfully inflated, but the pick sets were fairly cheap.
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby drop dead fred » 14 Feb 2010 10:34

[quote="rx6006"]Try giving our members more than half a business day to answer your question before letting impatience get the better of you. In the mean time, please try the handy-dandy "Search" function on the toolbar found to the left of your screen. Many of our hobbyist members don't particularly see the value in pick guns, as these tools are really better left to locksmiths or security professionals who may need to breach a door with minimal SPP training on a moment's notice. If you're a hobbyist like most of us, you'd really be better off with picks imo.


boring answer ! i asked a question didnt request a speech on somting i already know, Oh i had 1 and sleeps b4 i got reply. im not botherd i use other forums with much friendly answers - cheers smart asre for nothing
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby drop dead fred » 14 Feb 2010 10:41

Bad_Jason wrote:I'm a total hobbiest, but I bought the Southord pick gun for $hits and giggles. I can't say I use it often as I prefer SPPing... but the times I have used it the needle becomes loose after a few snaps. I've managed to open several locks with it with relative ease, but I CAN see how it could get annoying to continuously have to tighten the needle.

For my lowly needs it works well, but if my lively hood depended on a pick gun, I'd likely look elsewhere.

Unfortunately I'm tied to just Southord tools at this point due to the fact that I can't find anyone who will ship me HPCs, etc. Southford picks seem to do the job, but I'd really like to see how other manufacturer's tools feel.

Just curious, but do they sell picks and pick related gear at gun shows?


Thanks , thats why i asked - i have a southord in the bottom of my pants pile been there over a year ! im not a southord fan but southord are a fan of selling to the hobbies !
If i got good reviews i'd dig it out but i know there more for SHOW and not actually good in action , i was rather hopeing someone would say " yes get the majestic or the ilco there great.
Never mind - tools and time dont change

thanks
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby nostromo » 14 Feb 2010 11:24

Can't speak to the american models, but FWIW I've carried two pickguns for sale at my classes. One from Dealextreme and one from Southern Specialties. Both are Chinese imports. Comparing them side by side: the spring action, tension wheel fit and set, chrome finish, finish of exposed parts, weight and size are comparable. The parts almost seem produced from the same dies but assembled by different companies. The pick needle clamping mechanisms for both require frequent tightening, but not OVERTIGHTENING or you strip the screw head or have to replace the castle washer. They both come with the same tension wrench and pick needles. Even the same thin cardboard box.

Notable differences between the two: the Dealextreme model is fastened with phillips head bolts and the SoSpec is riveted, DE is $16.90 and includes S&H where the SoSpec is $39.95 not incl S&H. However, Richard has a lifetime manufacturers' guarantee.

As of today, the Dealextreme model is at http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17606
Southern Specialties is at http://www.lockpicktools.com/pickguns.htm

The issue of DE shipping times and service is in other threads.

OP- My recommendation? If you have money to spare or like collecting tools, go for a top quality manufacturer like Peterson. Otherwise, your Southord is just as good as most of what's out there.
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby eppiotic » 14 Feb 2010 16:55

Not a lot of sporters do impact picking from what I've seen its mainly for locksmiths who need into properties quickly. Since I'am both I like the lockaid pick gun. If this place is anything like our shop, then everyone will have their own favorite brand heh.
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby locknpawn » 16 Feb 2010 23:50

lock picking tools are ok for the person who has a good hand .. as for me i have to pick with the old school way.. i tryed to pick with a gun. no good,
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby MarkC » 17 Feb 2010 10:45

I have a few different guns and there isn't a huge difference between them. I would personally suggest the Lockaid or Ilco pick guns. Both have proven very reliable.

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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby loki-aka » 17 Feb 2010 16:07

I have owned the Ilco lock gun for many years. It is still not only in service, but the included spare parts kit- that came in OEM box- is still complete and unopened.

I have not seen them offered in a while. If you see one, I suggest NOT passing on it.
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Re: manual pick gun ? which to buy

Postby MarkC » 17 Feb 2010 23:36

See the top of this page for a picture of the Ilco gun and everything it comes with;

http://www.keymachines.com/pickguns.htm

I haven't used the spare parts either. :)

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