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Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby unlisted » 1 May 2010 4:00

nataz wrote:@unlisted, any hints?


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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby hadees » 1 May 2010 20:48

unlisted wrote:Personally, I prefer the "bling bling" model: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sargent-and-Greenle ... 335c30dcb7

I also see that seller has raised the price drastically since I purchased mine.. I'm pretty confident you can make an offer around the 12.00 mark if your buying more than one.. ;)


I tried getting 3 for $12 and he rejected the offer, said he only would do it for $20 each. Is that still a good price?

He is still selling the 8088 for $9 each. Should I go for that one instead? I probably could get a buck or two knocked off that one. However 2 of these I'm planning on using outside so i'm not sure how well they hold up out there.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby Squelchtone » 2 May 2010 1:06

hadees wrote:He is still selling the 8088 for $9 each. Should I go for that one instead? I probably could get a buck or two knocked off that one. However 2 of these I'm planning on using outside so i'm not sure how well they hold up out there.



The locks normally cost $300 and you want more taken off $9 ? Don't be so darn cheap, a crappy Master combination at the store costs $9, suck it up and pay the man.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby nataz » 2 May 2010 12:47

lol, yea, I felt bad after I lowballed, and had already decided to just pay 9 when he rejected, but then he accepted.

I didn't realize he had bling bling ones left as well. Is the chrome better for use outside?
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Re: Affordable padlock?

Postby Squelchtone » 2 May 2010 13:33

nataz wrote:lol, yea, I felt bad after I lowballed, and had already decided to just pay 9 when he rejected, but then he accepted.

I didn't realize he had bling bling ones left as well. Is the chrome better for use outside?



Those locks are not meant to be used outside. They are meant to be used as tamper-evident file cabinet locking bar padlocks. The chrome shroud over the 8077AD padlock is designed to show any signs of prying, drilling, crushing, etc so that when the person who has the combination walks up to the padlock it should be very obvious that someone was trying to or successfully made entry and either drilled the lock open, or scoped it, or that someone is at least trying to get past that padlock so you may want to ramp up security around that file cabinet.

If you guys need an outdoor padlock, always choose Abloy. They're meant to survive harsh winters of Finland, and have extra large water/slush drain holes, and a mechanism that is not subject to freezing or dirt build up as a normal inline stack pin tumbler padlock.
They will not be combination operated however, if that is specifically what you are looking for.

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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby hadees » 2 May 2010 18:32

squelchtone wrote:The locks normally cost $300 and you want more taken off $9 ? Don't be so darn cheap, a crappy Master combination at the store costs $9, suck it up and pay the man.


I didn't know how much they normally cost and someone else said offer $12. I'm just going to buy them for $20 now that i know the retail price.

squelchtone wrote:If you guys need an outdoor padlock, always choose Abloy. They're meant to survive harsh winters of Finland, and have extra large water/slush drain holes, and a mechanism that is not subject to freezing or dirt build up as a normal inline stack pin tumbler padlock.
They will not be combination operated however, if that is specifically what you are looking for.


I do need some combination for outside use, do you have any suggestions for that? I live in Austin TX so the climate isn't quite as harsh as Finland. Maybe I could get some kind of plastic cover for the 8077AB.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby Josh K » 2 May 2010 18:34

hadees wrote:I didn't know how much they normally cost and someone else said offer $12. I'm just going to buy them for $20 now that i know the retail price.

I do need some combination for outside use, do you have any suggestions for that? I live in Austin TX so the climate isn't quite as harsh as Finland. Maybe I could get some kind of plastic cover for the 8077AB.


Why do you need a combination lock for outside? Any particular reason?

I'd use a Master combination lock simply because you will have to replace it every so often, especially if it rains.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby hadees » 2 May 2010 21:45

Josh K wrote:Why do you need a combination lock for outside? Any particular reason?

I'd use a Master combination lock simply because you will have to replace it every so often, especially if it rains.


I have a shed outside my house that I want to hide a spare house key inside in case I loose my keys for some reason. I'm kind of surprised no one would make a good quality outside safe combination lock. I know they make ones to hold house keys but i'm looking for something less obvious.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby Josh K » 2 May 2010 21:47

hadees wrote:
Josh K wrote:Why do you need a combination lock for outside? Any particular reason?

I'd use a Master combination lock simply because you will have to replace it every so often, especially if it rains.


I have a shed outside my house that I want to hide a spare house key inside in case I loose my keys for some reason. I'm kind of surprised no one would make a good quality outside safe combination lock. I know they make ones to hold house keys but i'm looking for something less obvious.


The problem is sealing the lock from the elements. No matter how much you seal it up water and gunk will still get in there. With all the moving parts present in a combination lock that is particularly harmful.

Get an Abloy and don't loose the key.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby unlisted » 3 May 2010 0:23

Get an abloy, and find a hiding place for the key on your property.

Or, use one of these in a garden.

http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Hide-a-Key-W ... B001JYYFZW

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Or, find a really good hiding place somewhere on your property, and hide the shed key there. Keep the house keys locked up in the shed, but also VERY well hidden.

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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby nataz » 4 May 2010 0:17

heh, I live in Tx right now too - I'm def not that worried about weather mucking up the lock. That said, I'm going to use these to secure a storage chest in an office that really doesn't even need to be locked. More of a novelty really. That, and if I can figure out a good way to do it, they may make an interesting cutaway (1 to rip apart and 1 to cut nice and neat).

I also might use it on a moving van's cargo door.
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Re: Affordable non-pick proof padlock?

Postby unlisted » 4 May 2010 0:36

Just remember, these locks are NOT high security- in the sense of break and enter.
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