Next HOPE / bringing picks across border

[jeffm]

Hi,

So I'm heading out to NY tomorrow (for HOPE) from Canada and was planning on bringing my pick set and a few locks. Has anyone ever had problems bringing pick sets across the border, and anything I should know about doing so?

-Jeff

[JK_the_CJer]

Shipped my tools yesterday (like always) and getting ready to fly out there from CA. Its just not worth the potential hassle of dealing with authorities that don't know their own laws/regs and are suspicious of you. That said, I doubt you'd have much of a problem driving even if searched. Hopefully some of your fellow lumberjacks can share their experiences and advice on this one. See you at Hope!

[greenman]

id research the laws you wouldn't want your picks confiscated.

[Squelchtone]

id research the laws you wouldn't want your picks confiscated.

The actual laws don't matter as much as what a police officer / border guard / TSA airport official who is usually high on power THINKS what the law is or even worse, that there IS a law, and that just because you posses tools that are associated with crime because of our stupid media, that you must be committing a crime by simply having them in your pocket or in your luggage.

Squelchtone

[JK_the_CJer]

Drifting off-topic a bit in regard to power-tripping guards, etc.. I stood around as a guard on the ship for a bit over a year (12 hour shifts). A big part of the reason guards act like [insert favorite term here] is the cover-your-butt culture that comes with it. Regardless of what the "official" reaction is, the very first thing that TSA, etc.. will do is find the guard that screwed up and end their career. Next they will try to find a way to sweep it under the rug to protect the organization. Later, the big guys in charge will overreact and you know the rest...

Being a [insert favorite term here] doesn't come naturally to most people (see social engineering). This attitude is drilled into these guys during training along with the ways they can be punished/prosecuted if they screw up. Well that and the fact that absolutely no one they deal with while working is happy about it.

[shadow11612]

Not that anything is foolproof.

But you can print this TSA Brochure and carry it with you.

http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/prohibite ... ochure.pdf

It states that the following are allowed in Carry-on and Checked luggage

Tools (seven inches or less in length) Yes
Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length) Yes
Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length) Yes

[raimundo]

JK cjer,
I thought that post on the youtube "barret 50. ricochet" was actually sorta funny,
at first I thought the round had come back in a near straight line, but later I saw the dust in front of the guy just before hes hit and realized the round had skipped off the ground in front of him, which means that it was arcing downward just about out of energy,
when you watch tracers skipping off a berm at night, they seem to fly upward at all angles, but I never knew why they would skip off a sand berm anyway, they should penetrate it, maybe the angle of the sand slope at entry causes this.

Look on youtube for fifty cal richochet.

[Squelchtone]

Not that anything is foolproof.

But you can print this TSA Brochure and carry it with you.

http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/prohibite ... ochure.pdf

It states that the following are allowed in Carry-on and Checked luggage

Tools (seven inches or less in length) Yes
Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length) Yes
Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length) Yes

Thank you for this, I'm going to go this route, along with placing my business cards inside my pick set, and with all the locks, so the checkers aren't making up wild stories in their minds. They will just read a business card for a security consulting firm.

Squelchtone