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by jiminavan » 11 Jan 2010 13:57
Are most washing machine tubular locks 7 or 8 pin?
I see many places sell both 7 and 8 pin locks...is it a a fairly 50-50 split amongst the two types of locks?
thanks
Jim
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by mh » 11 Jan 2010 15:20
I'm sure you are not trying to find out what pick you should buy that would open more washing machines, in order to steal coins from them, but that you have a more sincere motivation for that question?
Cheers mh
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by ElAbogado » 11 Jan 2010 18:33
jiminavan wrote:Are most washing machine tubular locks 7 or 8 pin?
I see many places sell both 7 and 8 pin locks...is it a a fairly 50-50 split amongst the two types of locks?
thanks
Jim
last ones I worked on were 12 pin UL listed... tough little buggers.
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by Solomon » 11 Jan 2010 18:36
ElAbogado wrote:last ones I worked on were 12 pin UL listed... tough little buggers.
Were all 12 active pins? That sounds like a riot. 
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by FarmerFreak » 11 Jan 2010 21:04
Solomon wrote:ElAbogado wrote:last ones I worked on were 12 pin UL listed... tough little buggers.
Were all 12 active pins? That sounds like a riot. 
Was it pin in pin (Large Ace, or something or other)? I swear I remember seeing one like that years ago, all worn out too. I think it had seven pin chambers (but I'm not sure), so it would be a 14 pin lock I suppose. Or was it just twelve regular pin. Like what Amsec used on there "campus vault" for a short period of time. I think they used 11 pins. Hmm...that makes me wonder if they even still make the campus vault.
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by unlisted » 12 Jan 2010 3:03
... Gotta love the Op's username selection... 
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by jiminavan » 12 Jan 2010 10:38
mh wrote:I'm sure you are not trying to find out what pick you should buy that would open more washing machines, in order to steal coins from them, but that you have a more sincere motivation for that question?
Cheers mh
Are you with the gestapo? I can't ask a question without being accused of something criminal. If you cannot answer my question, that is ok. But your response is insulting and rude.
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by Squelchtone » 12 Jan 2010 12:14
jiminavan wrote:Are most washing machine tubular locks 7 or 8 pin?
I see many places sell both 7 and 8 pin locks...is it a a fairly 50-50 split amongst the two types of locks?
thanks
Jim
As you may know there are two doors on the coin op mechanism. Top or side door is for the switches and wires, and is usually a tubular lock. Front door is the coin mechanism and from my experience in New England all are Abloy disc locks or Abloy clones, like LAI, etc. Recently I saw tenants in an apt rip the side and top doors off not to steal money, but to simply press the switch which tricks the machine into thinking the coin mechanism slid back enough to press the switch and turn on the machine to do a load of laundry or to dry a load. They fixed the doors and locks, and had me install a hidden camera to watch the room for the next time someone does this. You may feel like you got jumped on by some people but they're (and I do this to) just trying to defend their turf from people who just join and ask a very specific question about a lock that usually involves money storage. We see it about once a month. Totally new user, not really interested in picking as a hobby, just wants to know how to get into an ACE II 8 pin lock, or a Medeco Biaxial padlock, or an "insert lock model", usually they also say they want to get in quickly and quietly, and that trips most of our alarms to respond in a negative way or with sarcasm and flaming. We just don't want bag guys to come to this site as a means to educate themselves, it's just not what we're about. Google is also very good at indexing this site and making it easy to search with google . That's why some questions don't go answered even to people who come here and say hey, I'm a locksmith, what's the big deal, just tell me what I need to know. If we help this guy out, someone with lower morals may find our answer and use it for ill means. Are you trying to figure out which tubular pick to spend your money on? I think Southord has a set that has both 7 and 8 pin. I know it's an investment, but the more tools in your van, the easier your job is at the end of the day. Best of luck, Squelchtone

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by mh » 12 Jan 2010 15:05
jiminavan wrote:Are you with the gestapo? I can't ask a question without being accused of something criminal.
If you cannot answer my question, that is ok. But your response is insulting and rude.
Well, your response wasn't very helpful either, it's not easy to guess your motivation and intentions. I now claim the first corollary to Godwin's Law.
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by Squelchtone » 12 Jan 2010 15:21
mh wrote:jiminavan wrote:Are you with the gestapo? I can't ask a question without being accused of something criminal.
If you cannot answer my question, that is ok. But your response is insulting and rude.
Well, your response wasn't very helpful either, it's not easy to guess your motivation and intentions. I now claim the first corollary to Godwin's Law.
I learn new things every day. mostly from this forum. Thanks for that link mh! Squelchtone
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by unlisted » 12 Jan 2010 15:41
squelchtone wrote:mh wrote:jiminavan wrote:Are you with the gestapo? I can't ask a question without being accused of something criminal.
If you cannot answer my question, that is ok. But your response is insulting and rude.
Well, your response wasn't very helpful either, it's not easy to guess your motivation and intentions. I now claim the first corollary to Godwin's Law.
I learn new things every day. mostly from this forum. Thanks for that link mh! Squelchtone
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by xBMW M3 GTR » 29 Dec 2010 23:16
 Just WOAH! I was freaking out when I started to read through this thread. 12 pin locks?! But then I realized it was tubular (saw the word but it didnt set in in the beginning) I was gonna say, where can i get a "12 pin lock for my front door?"
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by unlisted » 29 Dec 2010 23:37
xBMW M3 GTR wrote::shock: Just WOAH! I was freaking out when I started to read through this thread. 12 pin locks?! But then I realized it was tubular (saw the word but it didnt set in in the beginning) I was gonna say, where can i get a "12 pin lock for my front door?"
There are 12 pin locks as well.  Cannnot think of any names off the top of my head, but if you create your own topic, I am sure someone will answer you 
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by Squelchtone » 30 Dec 2010 8:52
unlisted wrote:xBMW M3 GTR wrote::shock: Just WOAH! I was freaking out when I started to read through this thread. 12 pin locks?! But then I realized it was tubular (saw the word but it didnt set in in the beginning) I was gonna say, where can i get a "12 pin lock for my front door?"
There are 12 pin locks as well.  Cannnot think of any names off the top of my head, but if you create your own topic, I am sure someone will answer you 
Do you mean dimple locks like KABA where you have several surfaces that allow for many pins? I think he was hoping for an inline pin tumbler lock with 12 stacks. Reminds me of some photos Barry had on blackbag.nl the other year where the keys were very very very long and had some purpose, I dont remember what it was. Have a Happy New Year everybody! Squelchtone
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by keysman » 30 Dec 2010 10:01
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