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About these locks???

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About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 31 Dec 2010 2:08

I was wondering what any of you guys could tell me about this particular lock. Specifically if they are hard to pick or if they are easy things in that nature. Thanks for all of your guy's advice.
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Solomon » 31 Dec 2010 9:46

It's a Wilson Bohannan... never picked one personally, but I hear they're not too bad. I take it you're having trouble with it?
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Re: About these locks???

Postby raimundo » 31 Dec 2010 10:22

shiny, like new. that lock is common five pins, a good one for picking. No tricky pins.
Most of these brand locks are made for large contracts from utility companies like electrical power and yours has a UP&L stamp for a company that probably has power and light as a part of the name. Seems like you could actually look that one up.
in any case they become after market privatley owned and they are also probably keyed alike to a number of other similiar locks.
which may be still in use.
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 1 Jan 2011 5:16

yeah haha I'm not having the best of luck with it. You also hit the nail on its head haha. It stands for Utah Power and Light. I was wondering if they were hard to pick also because they were custom to that specific company, and since that company choose that brand if that meant something. I picked my first lock with a safety pin, it was a puny Master lock, I thought I would try my luck with this one. I have the key to both of these particular locks and don't know how to take them apart. Haha yeah they are shiny because I couldn't stand them dirty so I cleaned them up, I have a habit of cleaning random things and making them shiny like so. Thanks for advice I really appreciate it.

On a scale of 1-10 on difficulty of picking what would you rate these ones? Also I have a American Lock Co. Series 700 and it seems to be kicking my ass as well, I have read threads on this site about that particular one and from what I gathered it isn't the easiest out there. I was wondering what your guy's opinion would be on what lock out there is the most difficult one to pick. I want to get a lock to lock some stuff up that is really safe and hard to get past.
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Evan » 2 Jan 2011 0:09

Yonatin wrote:yeah haha I'm not having the best of luck with it. You also hit the nail on its head haha. It stands for Utah Power and Light. I was wondering if they were hard to pick also because they were custom to that specific company, and since that company choose that brand if that meant something. I picked my first lock with a safety pin, it was a puny Master lock, I thought I would try my luck with this one. I have the key to both of these particular locks and don't know how to take them apart. Haha yeah they are shiny because I couldn't stand them dirty so I cleaned them up, I have a habit of cleaning random things and making them shiny like so. Thanks for advice I really appreciate it.

On a scale of 1-10 on difficulty of picking what would you rate these ones? Also I have a American Lock Co. Series 700 and it seems to be kicking my donkey as well, I have read threads on this site about that particular one and from what I gathered it isn't the easiest out there. I was wondering what your guy's opinion would be on what lock out there is the most difficult one to pick. I want to get a lock to lock some stuff up that is really safe and hard to get past.



@Yonatin:

Those WB padlocks can be 4, 5 or 6 pins... Utility companies order padlocks from WB because WB will create a bitting for that company only and never repeat it or sell locks keyed to it or keys cut to it to anyone else...

Also until Master's new Edge system came out a couple of years ago it was one of the options for ordering keying systems that included padlocks whose keys could also be used in door hardware in the form of rim and mortise cylinders with the same keyway... Just like systems from Yale, Sargent, Best, Corbin-Russwin, etc...

WB also manufactures some rather specialized OEM padlock solutions for the utility industry like meter socket locks for electric companies and gas meter pin locks for gas companies...

Your locks look nice but I doubt they were ever in service -- they lack the corrosion and staining you would expect to see on a lock that has been outside securing a transformer enclosure, load-break switch, gate or meter for any length of time... Just about every truck in a utility company will have a box of those type of enclosure locks on it because when the key doesn't open the lock it gets cut and whatever work needs to be done gets done and a new lock is left in place of the cut one at the end of the job...

As for the difficulty of picking, that will depend on the individual lock and the bitting rather than the type in a general sense... Even multiple examples of an identically bitted lock will pick differently because of the slight machining differences in the cylinder...

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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 13 Jan 2011 23:54

they had some corrosion on them, but I used a solvent that removes it. these locks in particular are fairly new so you are right about they haven't been used much if at all. I have one that shows it's wear and tear but didn't picture it. I have several keys that open all three locks, so I know they are keyed the same, which actually surprised me haha until I put two and two together.
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Re: About these locks???

Postby edsmiley » 19 Jan 2011 23:54

Evan is definitely right about every one being different. I have quite a few of these, some with long shackle, some short. Some branded with a company and some that just have the WB logo. The reason why I first bought these was because I heard they were a really good lock. When I received it and picked it in a short time, I was disappointed. However, I have some others I have yet to pick.

Overall I think that they are a pretty nice lock, but there is quite the range in "pickability". Thanks for all the replies about the history, love to hear this kind of stuff for locks I own.

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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 21 Jan 2011 4:37

here is another lock (pictured in the right) from UP&L I just thought I'd share it with you guys. haha how hard would one of these be to pick?
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 21 Jan 2011 4:37

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Re: About these locks???

Postby Solomon » 21 Jan 2011 8:16

Cover up the keyway why don't ya! ;)

Probably a lever lock, could pick it with wires but if you don't pick levers much I'd say no chance.
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 21 Jan 2011 21:43

haha my bad here is a better pic.

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Re: About these locks???

Postby raimundo » 22 Jan 2011 8:05

I believe that the number written alongside the keyway may indicate the exact key cuts if that old information is still available somewhere.

This sort of lock usually came in large groups keyed alike and there were probably a limited number of differs available in the system
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Re: About these locks???

Postby Yonatin » 23 Jan 2011 4:21

If i were to have the key to the lock how much would it be worth do you guys know?
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